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To: hoosiermama; bluecat6; Seizethecarp; LucyT

Also (I’d forgotten this part) if BO has statutory U.S. citizenship through his mother, wasn’t his mother (under 1961 law) not old enough to pass citizenship to her son?


259 posted on 07/22/2012 1:01:15 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

That is correct....It would be up to his mother to present this document to obtain citizenship....Did she present it in HI when she was heading to WA?....Or did she just never get around to it....

Another thought...Grandma fills out what she can of the paper work in HI. SHE doesn’t know all the answers. It is recorded. Then this document arrives (did they forward it to HI?) and it is amended...Would explain why the nines are filled in.


261 posted on 07/22/2012 1:08:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: thecodont; LucyT; Brown Deer; melancholy; null and void; hoosiermama
“Also (I’d forgotten this part) if BO has statutory U.S. citizenship through his mother, wasn’t his mother (under 1961 law) not old enough to pass citizenship to her son?”

If Stanley Ann was legally married under US law she did NOT meet the “five years over age 14” residency requirement in 1961.

If Stanley Ann was legally single under US law, she was not subject to the five year requirement and WOULD have passed statutory US nationality to baby Barry with a Kenyan birth.

Let's say she goes to the US consulate in Mombasa at age 18 and they ask for proof of marriage to the father (who may have been legally married in Kenya in 1954 per BNA docs claimed to exist in the article at the top of this thread) and she can't produce proof of marriage or may have discovered the bigamy in Kenya from Barry's relatives, but she does have a passport. Step grandmother in Kenya is reported elsewhere to have said Stanley Ann was staying with her relatives during the later months of pregnancy.

US consulate may have simply applied the “single US citizen mother, foreign birth rule” and deemed Barry to be a statutory US national.

See my vanity on the tell-tale Obot lawyer attempts to make Barry eligible to be POTUS (a total legal travesty) even if he was born in Kenya:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2857598/posts

Obama cites US v Marguet-Pillado. Dicta implies Obama eligible even if born in Kenya (vanity)
vanity | March 11, 2012 | Seizethecarp

Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:23:03 PM by Seizethecarp

In support of the opinion in US v Marguet-Pillado, 9th Cir. 2011, Judge Gwin, writing for the majority in his “III Analysis” dicta, states: “No one disputes that Marguet-Pillado’s requested instruction was ‘an accurate statement of the law,’ in that it correctly stated the two circumstances in which an individual born in 1968 is a natural-born United States citizen: (1) that the person was born in the United States or (2) born outside the United States to a biologically-related United States citizen parent who met certain residency requirements.” On March 1, Sheriff Arpaio’s Posse re-opened the possibility that Obama was born in Kenya by announcing that it had found probable cause to believe that Obama’s long form birth certificate was forged, newspaper birth announcements were unreliable, and that there was now no proof that Obama was born in the USA. A week earlier, with full knowledge of what the Arpaio Posse’s findings would be, “constitutional scholar” Obama’s legal team suddenly started citing the Marguet-Pillado case in multiple PA and GA ballot eligibility state appeals. The following language is included by Obama’s lawyers in the PA and GA MTD filings: “President Obama was a United States citizen from the moment of his birth inHawaii. Since he held citizenship from birth, all Constitutional qualifications have beenmet. Ankeny v. Governor of State of Indiana, 916 N.E.2d 678 (Ind. App., 2009); see,United States v. Marguet-Pillado , 648 F.3d 1001, 1006 (9thCir., 2011). There is no basis to question the President’s citizenship or qualifications to hold office.”
www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2011/08/.../10-50041.pdf

265 posted on 07/22/2012 1:22:39 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: thecodont; hoosiermama; bluecat6; Seizethecarp; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer
Also (I’d forgotten this part) if BO has statutory U.S. citizenship through his mother, wasn’t his mother (under 1961 law) not old enough to pass citizenship to her son?

If Barry had been born in Kenya to Stanley the mother and BHO Senior the father, he was not a US Citizen for the reason you set out--residence of the citizen mother in the US for five years after age 14 was a condition of citizenship to the child and Stanley would have been, under the hypothetical, only 18 at the time of birth in August of 61 and therefore could not possibly have met the requirement of the condition.

310 posted on 07/23/2012 10:11:43 AM PDT by David
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