OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES

The Daily Pen ^ | July 18, 2012 | Dan Crosby

[Seizethecarp]

It now appears the worst fears of the U.S. Constitution’s framers were well founded as investigators working on behalf of the ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama have found yet another lead in a growing mountain of evidence within the public records section of the British National Archives indicating the occurrence of at least four vital events registered to the name of Barack Obama, taking place in the British Protectorate of East Africa (Kenya) between 1953 and 1963, including the birth of two sons before 1963.

The record of birth of a second son prior to Kenyan independence is significant because biographical information about Obama’s family indicates Obama Sr. fathered only one other son prior to Obama II’s birth.

The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives’ desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.

To date, Barack Obama II is the only known alleged son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before the independence of Kenya became official in 1963.

[Seizethecarp]

“In the college life of Barack Obama [Senior] in 1961 and 1962,” writes Maraniss, “as recounted by his friends and acquaintances in Honolulu, there was no Ann; there was no baby.”

This is where Maraniss destroys Obama’s seminal “American” narrative that was loaded into the teleprompter for the 2004 Dem Convention speech. This is the speech describing the “improbable love” between his parents and their beliefs about America that caused the left and many independents to swoon.

So while Maraniss can be faulted for giving “full faith and credit” to what HI DOH says is in its archive, outside of that nothing of Barry's biography in HI was sacred for Maraniss. To the Dems it is all sacred so Maraniss has been purged on the left. Kill the messenger, they cry!

[little jeremiah]

Maraniss is not black and white pro or against Barry. Maraniss is an historian and he relied on traditional sources...

I don't know how you can say that with a straight face after reading Maraniss' article that I quoted from. He's not an historian, he's a toadying suckup liar. No nurses "remember" Stanaley having a baby, and no doctors either; only one old former Punahou teacher, who was lying. That's just one example. He says anyone who doubts 0bama's Christianity, parentage or thinks he's a socialist/communist - is a RACIST and hates him because he's BlACK. (or part black anyway).

I'm done with you - finito - end of the line. You think anyone with an attitude and motiavation like that, who consciously and knowingly lies, who says that the entire myth presented in Dreams is factual other than a teensy insignificant detail here and there - is never to be trusted. But you - you call him an historical who relies on "traditional" sources.

[little jeremiah]

Maraniss done outed himself. His nitpicking disagreement with “Dreams” is merely to make himself [falsely] appear “objective” in his toadying suckup-hood.

[Seizethecarp]

“They are approximately between two and three years of age. I refer to them as just out of toddler-hood. Zero, not long before is seen in the toddler image with the hammer, and he appears to have been wearing training pants, so he was then not totally toilet trained. The dark boy is several months older.”

First, the head to torso and head to long-bone ratios of the two boys are obviously very different and are respectively consistent with age two and age four. This is how a forensic examiner of skeletal remains determines age. Please consider this carefully and don't blow it off.

I am not sure why you are able to see the obvious head to body proportion problem in the photo of Barry with his “girlfriend” but can't see the obvious difference between the two boys making them years, not months apart in age.

If the older boy was born in January 1961 and the younger one was born in August 1961, then the date of the photo, by your analysis of the age of the boys, would be about from August 1963 to August 1964...which is the month BHO Sr. and Ruth left the US for Kenya. Where were these boys? Their mother says they were in Kenya c. 1970 with her which matches the record and their forensic body dimensions.

Per Fred Nerks on where the picture of the boys was taken:

“Somewhere where they were together, most likely in Hawaii. However, WHERE they were isn't really that significant, is it?”

Of course it is significant for any competent investigation, if your proposed narrative is to be assessed with reason. You have made the astounding assertion that these boys’ identities were switched and the darker boy was the “original” BHO2 but you have provided no evidence of that at all, which is CT. You also claim that the younger boy is the son of Malcom X and Valerie Sarruf. Knowing where either of these boy were first spotted, with whom and why they would be together would seem to be the staring point for establishing your alternate narrative.

Now you have added a claim that the dark boy born to an undocumented wife of BHO Sr. would be the male baby recorded in the Kenya BNA archive in 1961 with a likely assist from Odingo, also based on no evidence!

Per Fred Nerks Re :The date of the family photo with Senior, Ruth, the boys you claim are Roman and Mark:

:She's holding her chinless wonder of a son named Mark, he appears to be a toddler still. You work it out. And BHO2 is now old ought to reach to her waist.”

The “dark boy” in the family photo is the same age and has the same relative head to body ration relative to the baby in Ruth's arms as in the picture of the two boys and yes, the “dark boy” comes up only to her waist, which is important. Ruth and BHO Sr. were both quite short, as can be seen in photos of the two partying in Maraniss’s book on page 15 of the photo exhibits. Senior is also clearly short in the party photos at the Nachmans’s in HI. So to my eye the “dark boy” appears to be 4 years old.

If the toddler in Ruth's arms appearing to be age 2 is Mark and Mark was born in November 1965 then the photo would have been taken approximately in late 1967 per your narrative. But that would make the “dark boy” in the family photo nearly age seven, if he was born in early 1961.

The relative ages of the boys in the photos clearly cannot be matched do your narrative as to their alternate identities and relative ages using standard rational and forensic analysis.

BTW, it was in comment #631 where I disclosed how the identity of Valerie Sarrug was made public in part by you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908395/posts?q=1&;page=631

The identity of Valerie Sarruf as a claimed mom for Barry (with Malcolm X as the dad) was revealed on the public FR thread comments:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=212

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=269

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=273

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=294

[RaceBannon]

I stand by my story

I change only a conclusion made 32 years ago, that the man named Liddy was Gordon liddy’s son who was a SEAL

This man did tell me he was Gordon Liddy’s son, he was older than me, his subordinate’s had hair as long as mine, something RECON didn’t normally wear, so, I thought he was a SEAL

I was wrong, he was not a SEAL, or he lied about being Liddy’s son

still trying to see the age of Liddy’s oldest, can’t find it yet

[PhilDragoo]

In Maraniss Bio Deepens Obama Birth Mystery as noted at 936 Cashill demonstrates Maraniss glibly proves nothing vis-a-vis Zero's miraculous birth, the SAD/BHO marriage myth, failing even to find anyone who saw the "couple" together.

The "witness" to the birth parrots an alleged hearsay anecdote--and Maraniss styles himself "historian" while doubters are "preposterous."

There's nothing and nobody who can put SAD/BHO in the legend with anything beyond compressed gas.

Maraniss flops like a fish on the deck.

He needs Ayers' CPR, a nice balloon-head photo having failed.

Oh, the humanity.

[danamco]

That head looks like pumped up by helium in a balloon and hers like helium escaping. What’s the photo about???

[Seizethecarp]

IMO, your memory of your encounter with Barry is corroborated by the Ayers’s postman (and many others) who said Barry blurted out some of the same things about wanting to be president, and Mrs. Ayers said Barry was a foreign student which would tie to a Mombasa birth narrative at the time for Barry.

Now we have the claimed discovery of a registration of the birth of a male baby to BHO Sr. IN KENYA in 1961 and also the record of one US citizen baby being brought from Kenya to the US in 1961 providing possible corroboration of a Mombasa birth for Barry.

The 12 claimed FReeper researchers who believe that Barry was born somewhere other than Kenya outside the US and that he was fathered by Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have a lot of explaining to do (none yet, all “evidence” secret) to show how it came to be that Barry meet you in 1980 in HI and said he was born in Mombasa, if your memory is correct.

[Seizethecarp]

Note that Maraniss does not deny that his biography “proves that Barack Obama’s defining memoir is phony and that his entire life is a fraud.” He only disputes the insinuation that he did this “unwittingly”!

He then says (painting with a very broad brush) “doubters and haters” of Obama are much worse than Obama because they are themselves are “frauds and fabricators” and “birthers” to boot and then goes on to try to debunk “birther” claims. Curiously Maraniss, a WaPo editor, fails to provide a rebuttal to or even take note of Sheriff Arpio’s extensive forensic evidence that Obama’s pdf birth certificate “released” on April 27, 2011 was forged, which would be the ultimate fabrication, if true, IMO.

Maraniss’s straw man is what he calls Obama’s “most virulent detractors.” Yes, some of Obama’s detractors are suffering from ODS, (Obama derangement syndrome) but there are many honest, sincere researchers who are vetting Obama using the most scrupulous forensic analysis available. Maraniss gives them and their research no mention and no credit, but his own biography of Obama extensively supports their findings. This is why Maraniss had to write this piece, IMO, to get back into the good graces of his friends in the left-leaning media after writing a biography that was so damaging to Obama’s credibility at all levels.

[danamco]

On the record, which would be the FOIA INS docs, there was only one woman impregnated by BHO Sr. in 1961 and that was Stanley Ann Dunham. No other woman has been identified on any record or in any contemporaneous witness account as having been a wife or impregnated by BHO Sr. in HI in 1961.

Are we talking about a normal nine month pregnacy or is the Kenyan genes only eight months???

[danamco]

Even coroborated by Soebarkah himself through his Lit. Agency that the SCM will NOT acknowledge or go near and have burried deep down under the rug!!!

[danamco]

After Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Posse investigation Maraniss has a lot of crow to eat!!!

[Brown Deer]

Maraniss is not black and white pro or against Barry.

Who did he vote for? He didn't call his book "Shut Up, 0bama!", did he? You quite obviously have not watched his interviews, since you didn't notice him drooling and his eyes lighting up whenever he said 0bama. Oh, and the disgust he showed from a few of those questions?

Maraniss is an historian...

Really? Where are the books on Presidents Bush?

he relied on traditional sources, such as state vital records in HI for his research into Barry's birth

Really? where did his get those from?

but he did get an extensive face-to-face interview with Ruth Ndesandjo.

but not the first as he claims!

I tread Maraniss like any other source. If portions of his information can be corroborated and fit a credible, coherent narrative, I will lean towards accepting them.

You didn't you read Where's the Birth Certificate? - 100% documented fact! but, as you state only portions of the Maraniss book can be corroborated. So you lean towards accepting him? What happened to the birth certifcate from Kenya that you so strongly believed in? Like Maraniss, YOU are UNBELIEVABLE!

More lies from suck-up Maraniss: David Maraniss on Obama and basketball (4 years ago) and now he gives another story about Barack, Sr. bringing him a basketball for Christmas, which turned his life around because it allowed him to become black and play street basketball in Hawaii with the other black kids. Really?

[Brown Deer]

did Maraniss interview you? because (even though we have many documented instances) he stated that he could not find one single person in all of his 400+ interviews that said he had any political aspirations, except for one person who made a joke about it!

Really? this man is a reporter? BS, he wrote another fairytale.

[Seizethecarp]

Correction:

On the record, which would be the FOIA INS docs, there was only one woman reported in 1961 to have been made pregnant (hapa) by BHO Sr., and that was Stanley Ann Dunham.

Conception would be Nov 4, 1960 for a nine month pregnancy with birth Aug 4, 1961.

Eligibility activists and Clinton opposition researchers have scoured the Hawaiian Islands (the whole world, actually) for verifiable, incontestable evidence and witnesses to place the birth of a baby named Barack Obama in 1961 to no avail.

Yet proponents of the Mal-Val narrative claim that a non-SADO wife of BHO Sr. gave birth to a non-Barry baby who was Seniors natural child named for him in HI and got the birth registered in Kenya and that that baby grew up to be Roman Obama...oh, and posed in a picture with baby Barry in 1963 when they were 2-3 years old.

The best opposition research on the planet has failed to detect a trace of evidence in support of this Mal-Val narrative, but loads of potentially verifiable evidence supporting a likely Kenyan birth for Barry has been found, such as the claimed Daily Pen BNA evidence of this thread.

[Seizethecarp]

“You didn't you read Where's the Birth Certificate? - 100% documented fact! but, as you state only portions of the Maraniss book can be corroborated. So you lean towards accepting him? What happened to the birth certifcate from Kenya that you so strongly believed in?”

More black and white thinking, there, I am sorry to see, which I do not in any way support as you can't be an effective investigator framing things like that.

I regard Corsi’s book, while certainly not 100% accurate, to be a very honest piece of journalism, including the presentation of Danae’s BC which I think contributed to driving Barry to “release” a forgery.

As I said, when Maraniss does original research and documents claims in a credible manner I will regard it in the “more likely true until proved otherwise” category.

I try to follow the scientific method of regarding all “facts” to be hypothetical truths, i.e. which are highly probable of surviving challenge, but all truths are subject to perpetual ongoing verification and rebuttal.

In the case of the picture of the two boys, for example, the hypothesis that they are the same age (born in 1961) is rebutted by forensic examination of their head to torso and head to long bone ratios.

When Maraniss screws up, I am happy to call him on it as when he accepts uncritically the HI DOH "verification" that Barry was born in HI in 1961.

[Seizethecarp]

“What happened to the birth certifcate from Kenya that you so strongly believed in?”

I never once said that the CPGH BC image was genuine. I only said that I did not regard the image as having been conclusively debunked...and was zotted for three months for suggesting that more discussion and investigation was warranted. The man claiming to have obtained the BC is a criminal forger and also a major creep (a truther wanting to “hang” W for 9/11 who admits to an illegal organ donation which might have involved a fraud) and JR and the mods don't want further discussion on FR.

From a legal standpoint, a record of a 1961 Kenyan BC or a certification of Kenyan BC can only be authenticated by either the UK or Kenya if it is to be included in a court discovery proceeding subject to the federal rules of evidence. Corsi claims to have published in his book that the original BC for Barry was reported missing in a secret Kenyan Gov’t letter, and he published that letter in his book.

[Seizethecarp]

When Race Bannon first came forward he said he was not certain that the young man was Barry, but only that he deduced that it was almost certainly Barry, and I agree. But Race Bannon’s inability of provide greater certainty of Barry’s identity would cause the memory of this account of Barry wanting to be president to NOT be included in an historical biography by a Pulitzer Prize winning author looking to bag another prize.

[little jeremiah]

Ultimately, in this issue (as in all areas of life, actually) it boils down to two choices.

1. The desire to know the truth, NO MATTER WHERE IT LEADS.

2. The desire to see ONLY that which supports currently held beliefs.

It’s really quite, quite simple.

[Brown Deer]

I never once said that the CPGH BC image was genuine.

You certainly spent a lot of time defending it!