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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; hoosiermama; little jeremiah; Fractal Trader; Brown Deer; melancholy; ...
“They are approximately between two and three years of age. I refer to them as just out of toddler-hood. Zero, not long before is seen in the toddler image with the hammer, and he appears to have been wearing training pants, so he was then not totally toilet trained. The dark boy is several months older.”

First, the head to torso and head to long-bone ratios of the two boys are obviously very different and are respectively consistent with age two and age four. This is how a forensic examiner of skeletal remains determines age. Please consider this carefully and don't blow it off.

I am not sure why you are able to see the obvious head to body proportion problem in the photo of Barry with his “girlfriend” but can't see the obvious difference between the two boys making them years, not months apart in age.

If the older boy was born in January 1961 and the younger one was born in August 1961, then the date of the photo, by your analysis of the age of the boys, would be about from August 1963 to August 1964...which is the month BHO Sr. and Ruth left the US for Kenya. Where were these boys? Their mother says they were in Kenya c. 1970 with her which matches the record and their forensic body dimensions.

Per Fred Nerks on where the picture of the boys was taken:

“Somewhere where they were together, most likely in Hawaii. However, WHERE they were isn't really that significant, is it?”

Of course it is significant for any competent investigation, if your proposed narrative is to be assessed with reason. You have made the astounding assertion that these boys’ identities were switched and the darker boy was the “original” BHO2 but you have provided no evidence of that at all, which is CT. You also claim that the younger boy is the son of Malcom X and Valerie Sarruf. Knowing where either of these boy were first spotted, with whom and why they would be together would seem to be the staring point for establishing your alternate narrative.

Now you have added a claim that the dark boy born to an undocumented wife of BHO Sr. would be the male baby recorded in the Kenya BNA archive in 1961 with a likely assist from Odingo, also based on no evidence!

Per Fred Nerks Re :The date of the family photo with Senior, Ruth, the boys you claim are Roman and Mark:

:She's holding her chinless wonder of a son named Mark, he appears to be a toddler still. You work it out. And BHO2 is now old ought to reach to her waist.”

The “dark boy” in the family photo is the same age and has the same relative head to body ration relative to the baby in Ruth's arms as in the picture of the two boys and yes, the “dark boy” comes up only to her waist, which is important. Ruth and BHO Sr. were both quite short, as can be seen in photos of the two partying in Maraniss’s book on page 15 of the photo exhibits. Senior is also clearly short in the party photos at the Nachmans’s in HI. So to my eye the “dark boy” appears to be 4 years old.

If the toddler in Ruth's arms appearing to be age 2 is Mark and Mark was born in November 1965 then the photo would have been taken approximately in late 1967 per your narrative. But that would make the “dark boy” in the family photo nearly age seven, if he was born in early 1961.

The relative ages of the boys in the photos clearly cannot be matched do your narrative as to their alternate identities and relative ages using standard rational and forensic analysis.

BTW, it was in comment #631 where I disclosed how the identity of Valerie Sarrug was made public in part by you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908395/posts?q=1&;page=631

The identity of Valerie Sarruf as a claimed mom for Barry (with Malcolm X as the dad) was revealed on the public FR thread comments:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=212

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=269

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=273

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=294

944 posted on 07/28/2012 8:47:23 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I’m NOT going to chase down a bunch of unclickable links, the few I did find show me comments that relate to the research on the Penrose family tree and The American University of Beirut, and the surprising connection of the baby-sitter to a past Vice President of the university, which btw, Malcolm X visited whilst in Lebanon.
Whilst you call Maraniss an HISTORIAN the history you really need to study just passes by your outrage.

All you are doing now is blustering with a thousand words. What you need to study is the research on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts

You desperately need some background that hasn’t come out of book written to keep the author in dollars, in which he plays the RACE CARD as an ACE.


975 posted on 07/28/2012 2:43:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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