Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
It now appears the worst fears of the U.S. Constitutions framers were well founded as investigators working on behalf of the ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama have found yet another lead in a growing mountain of evidence within the public records section of the British National Archives indicating the occurrence of at least four vital events registered to the name of Barack Obama, taking place in the British Protectorate of East Africa (Kenya) between 1953 and 1963, including the birth of two sons before 1963.
The record of birth of a second son prior to Kenyan independence is significant because biographical information about Obamas family indicates Obama Sr. fathered only one other son prior to Obama IIs birth.
The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled Burack and Biraq) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.
To date, Barack Obama II is the only known alleged son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before the independence of Kenya became official in 1963.
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Unless people start discussing American Idol or something totally unrelated. That is hijacking. Thinking that hijacking is everything except an Amen Corner is pure silliness.
I’ve written several oil and gas attorney’s in Independnce Kansas to see if they will gather mineral right info, how much property madelyn inherited, royalities, ect— havent heard back nothing yet.. If someome out there lives in this area, i will send you a few bucks to researh this, starting with Rolla charles payne and how much property he had + the new mineral right owner from a sign and well# posted on the property.. the well owner will have DETAILED info in a contract of the person collecting royalities from the well or wells passed down from madelyn dunham..Rolla Charles payne could have been a land owner in the oklahoma area also, but i cant confirm that- any help from a kansas peep would be awesome, — thanks..
A naturalized citizen could be eligible to run for the offices of state senator (Illinois) or U.S. Senator, and hold those offices. Did BO show those naturalization papers when he ran for those offices? How did he prove his United States citizenship? Did he wave his stale U.S. "Hawaiian" birth certificate under the noses of the Sec. of State and other officials and say "See, here's the proof" he was eligible for those offices, even though the B.C. was no longer valid to prove his nationality if he was depatriated and later naturalized?"
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Who's to say he even showed anything to be placed on the state ballot for state Senator? He probably simply signed a paper that said he was eligible and...bingo! He's on the ballot, no questions asked (or answered).
It appears that many/most(?) states don't require such documentation and some even appear to be offended that such documentation should be required (these days).
It has NOT been established publicly that Smith’s was a forgery to the contrary it has been hush hushed away and HE was under oath as well!!!
Who peed in your corn flakes? I focused on that first one on the left because as soon as I saw it, I thought it looked like Davis. It was an opinion. K? I guess I’m due an occasional opinion. Your posts do not show you as being a very nice person. Sweeten up. God loves you and so do I.
LJ, one has to allow for features that come from the mother’s side. I admit that O looks an awful lot like his white grandfather. The long chin and big ears, but the eyes, mouth forehead and expression, IN MY OPINION, look like FMD.
I don’t mean established by an external certifying organization or court or anything; just the conclusion of the long thread/s about it.
Odd, most people don’t see any resemblance at all to FMD. Take a look at post 600 and see if you see a resemblance in to MX.
Sorry for my big laps. It’s Tim Adams!!!
Posting bright shiny objects, like pictures of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf and claiming they are Barry's parents based on nothing except speculation IS American Idol level hijacking...especially on a thread about a birth record in Kenya claimed to be linked directly to Barry's namesake.
Was actress Valerie Sarruf in Kenya in 1961 on an Avenger shoot? That would be germane to the topic.
The identity of Valerie Sarruf as a claimed mom for Barry (with Malcolm X as the dad) was revealed on the public FR thread comments:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=212
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=269
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=273
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=294
This claim of paternity/maternity for Barry may have first been put forward by Polarick (Ron Pollard) in this video morphing Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf into Barry's image in a very creepy fashion:
“Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man - YouTube”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8
FReepers supporting Valerie Sarruf as mom seem to regard her name as a big secret but have been coming on nearly every eligibility thread and posting her picture and/or comments such as “Stanley Ann is NOT Barry's mom.”
No documentary evidence other then “degrees of separation” to bit-players in the FOIA narrative are ever offered, such as a non-blood relationship to a former babysitter of Barry, Mary Toutonghi.
I regard the persistent diversion of eligibility threads off into “SADO is not the mom” wild goose chases to be a form of not just hijacking but trolling. This activity only aides Obama’s team, IMO.
If interested, why not just start an FR thread on the topic of “Are Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf the parents of Barack Obama? and leave the evidence based, forensic eligibility threads on FR alone?
BTW, numerous false claims (claims with no contemporaneous evidence) flow directly from the “Valerie is his mom” cult-like belief. Defense of these claims spam up eligibility threads as well:
1. SADO was never in HI until 1963 and never attended U of HI
2. SADO was never in WA at U of WA
3. BHO Sr. married a Filipina named Ann S. Obama and had a baby first named BHO II, but then changed to Roman Obama.
4. Roman Obama was the baby who was babysat by Mary Toutonghi but in January of 1961, not 1962.
5. Roman Obama (pictured as an adult in Ghana, IIRC and posted on this thread as another hijack) is the “dark boy” in the pictures originally provided by and identified as being Mark Obama.
6. Baby David Obama never existed because it is actually the man now known as BHO II who was in the picture with “dark boy” Roman Obama (where or how is not explained or documented)
All of these six points (and numerous others) appear to have been inserted in the narrative by the Mal and Val crowd to explain away the possibility that Stanley Ann is Barry's mom.
That helps Obama, IMO whether intentionally or not.
On any eligibility thread where evidence is found or discussed that assumes or supports Stanley Ann as the mom, the Mal and Val FReepers are right there to divert the thread with claims that Stanley couldn't have been there or wasn't his mom or here is this bright shiny distracting picture of Malcolm X or Valerie Sarruf.
Can one of you fans of this Mal and Val theory just get your new thread going showing evidence backing your claims?
I thought the RAT party signed off on him...That’s why Nan had to delete the paragraph about qualifying from the certification.
Which I imagine it quite automaticially would have been, the Bomford birth was in 1959. What the Daily Pen needs to find out is WHEN the Bomford document was accessed. If that access was say late in 1963 or early 1964, then you can take it the document was used to produce a forgery for the divorce and custody. If access was sometime around the period of the Bomford kerfuffle, in 2009, then it would be safe to assume the document was accessed from the BOMFORD FAMILY WEBSITE.
You write as if there are TWO ITMES on the record in the archives, is that right? One for Bomford and one for an OBAMA? Can you explain that?
One would certainly be the original Bomford record, the second would be the for the child of the kenyan which he took to back to Kenya with him. You know who I mean.
see second last paragraph...he also says he hasn't been back to Kenya for SEVEN YEARS.
Correct. The claim is that there is a Bomford item from Australia and an Obama item from Kenya 1961 with similar formats which were fused into the forged Kenya document with the Australian Bomford filing numbers.
This is what the updated version of the article says (update as of 07/23/12):
“It is now supported by the evidence discovered in the BNA that the Bomford document image from Australia was accessed and used by pro-Obama operatives as a template to alter the image of the Kenyan CCRB image in order to make it appear that “birthers” had created a bad counterfeit of a Kenyan birth record for Obama. This was done by Obama’s forgers to create “shell game” confusion among the public and misdirect media attention from the truth that an original, unaltered Kenyan CCRB, which was never allowed to be publicly seen in its original form before Obama’s forgers were able to access and change it, was actually an image of a legitimate document posted by unknown individuals who were known by Obama to possess the document before hand.”
fred, you are a good researcher....Can you find a link between Glen Payne and Madelyn (BO’s grandmother)...He may be a nephew or great nephew. She was the youngest of three, but haven’t even been able to find the names of her siblings....many sites seem to have been scrubbed...Will explain why it needed when/if the pieces of the puzzle fits.
I will copy below a comment I made up the thread, but first I’ll ask you a question.
Do you think that Arpaio and Zullo proved that the birth certificate posted on the White House website is authentic or a forgery?
If you think it is a forgery (as they did prove beyond a shadow of a doubt to anyone who followed their points), then here is my other question to you and anyone else interested in the truth about the man in the WH:
Here is a question everyone should be thinking about.
Now that Arpaio and Zullo have PROVED WITHOUT THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT that anyone can go get a Hawaii birth certificate EVEN if they were NOT born in HI, and even years later, if Stanley Ann Dunham and the Kenyan Obama are the parents, OR if Stanley Ann Dunham and FMD are the parents, why did the forger/s have to make SO MANY CHANGES????? Even if he was born in Kenya to either set of parents?
The forger could have just gotten the regular HI birth certificate and made a few, one or NO changes. Since fake but real birth certificates are as easy as pie to obtain in Hawaii, there would be no need for a forgery, or at the most, one little change, if FMD is the father, as some people are speculating. If that was the case, then African would not be there, but Negro!
There is only ONE EXPLANATION for the multiple layers and other clear evidence of forgery - including the fact that the purported mothers name is partly ball point pen and partly fine tip marker pen, obviously forged.
The ONE EXPLANATION is that either nothing or very little on the BC is accurate.
IIRC butterdezillion’s research showed that the BC on file in HI was possibly a delayed registration. Up thread when we were looking at requirements to obtain a delayed registation of birth one was application signed by parents...
Notice the s on parents. Both parents.
As bluecat or another of the legal beagles pointed out upthread a relinquishing of parental rights or custody could be done with affidavits.He would NOT have had to travel to HI...
Here we have a reason for the 71 “family business” Christmas of Sr....Was there need of his testimony and signature to obtain the delayed registration of birth for BO?
Quotes from Time Magazine, April 2008:
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/04/time-magazine-on-mama-obama.html
Now that the OP has discussed an alternate theory on HIS thread, it’s apparently no longer a “hijack” to post an opinion other than those with which he agrees.
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