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To: cripplecreek
God doesn’t save the collective. God saves the individual souls.

Yes, but there's another side to that. God can't punish collectives, or nations, in the next world. He has to punish them in this world. Individuals may be saved, but during their time in this world, they're going to be hit with the punishments administered to the collective. Natural disasters, epidemics of "new" diseases (AIDS?), tyrannical political leaders, and so on.

54 posted on 06/30/2012 12:03:16 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

If I get caught up in God’s punishment of mortals, I’ll just have to endure and keep the faith. The bible is full of suffering mortals who reap the eternal rewards of faith.

There is NOTHING more than that.


55 posted on 06/30/2012 12:12:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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