Posted on 06/28/2012 1:43:28 PM PDT by Whenifhow
Before you look to do harm to Chief Justice Roberts or his family, its important that you think carefully about the meaning the true nature of his ruling on Obama-care. The Left will shout that they won, that Obama-care was upheld and all the rest. Let them.
It will be a short-lived celebration.
Heres what really occurred payback. Yes, payback for Obamas numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS.
Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. Thats how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress cant compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.
Next, he stated that, because Congress doesnt have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical. Recall back during the initial Obama-care battles, the Democrats called it a penalty, Republicans called it a tax. Democrats consistently soft sold it as a penalty. It went to vote as a penalty. Obama declared endlessly, that it was not a tax, it was a penalty. But when the Democrats argued in front of the Supreme Court, they said hey, a penalty or a tax, either way. So, Roberts gave them a tax. It is now the official law of the land beyond word-play and silly shenanigans. Obama-care is funded by tax dollars. Democrats now must defend a tax increase to justify the Obama-care law.
Finally, he struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding. Roberts ruled that is a no-no. If a state takes the money, fine, the Feds can tell the state how to run a program, but if the state refuses money, the federal government cant penalize the state by yanking other funding. Therefore, a state can decline to participate in Obama-care without penalty. This is obviously a serious problem. Are we going to have 10, 12, 25 states not participating in national health-care? Suddenly, its not national, is it?
Ultimately, Roberts supported states rights by limiting the federal governments coercive abilities. He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases.
Although he didnt guarantee Romney a win, he certainly did more than his part and should be applauded.
And he did this without creating a civil war or having bricks thrown threw his windshield. Oh, and hell be home in time for dinner.
Brilliant.
Well the local news at least in Houston is already beating the drum about Texas being behind the eight ball. Apparently we have a gazillions poor people who won’t have insurance because we filed a lawsuit against the government instead of taking the “free money” or setting up a state wide exchange. Numerous placards saying 25% of our citizens aren’t insured, even more than the total population of Missouri.
Austin not in session for several months so we’ll see how it all shakes out. Just wish they would all leave us alone.
ROBERTS, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD...I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I just wanted to be the first to say it if turns out so.
“I dont know if its true or not”
It’s not.
B.S.
Its Robertscare now. He bought it. He owns it.
He f@cked us over, sorry about the language. There is no way to put a positive spin on it. Not only did he uphold it, but he created a way to make it legal. He acted as an attorney for the Obama administration. If he was being intimidated into ruling this way, he should have done the honorable thing and stepped down.
The good side is that obama can not use this as an issue going forward. He won! He’ll have to defend all the rest of his record now. It’s not as bad as some think.
Why are you giving them ideas?
Good for the GOP, bad for the country.
Anyways, McConnell does not have the appetite for repealing this law.
Where we go from here is a completely different issue.
But the whole point of this inexplicable thread was to provide cover for Roberts.
Why?
He screwed us all. He screwed the Constitution. He WROTE law. He turned it into a tax so it could survive instead of just knocking it down like Alito, Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy.
I won’t excuse Roberts here. He did it on purpose.
People have got to face reality.
This is a don’t believe your lying eyes post.
Remember that it is the “Individual” in question.
This term individual is used in sections 26 U.S.C. §1 and 26 U.S.C. §6012(a). It is never defined anywhere in the I.R.C. The reason it is not defined is that it would give away the IRS’ ruse. Therefore, we have to look in the legal dictionary for the definition:
Individual. As a noun, this term denotes a single person as distinguished from a group or class, and also, very commonly, a private or natural person as distinguished from a partnership, corporation, or association; but it is said that this restrictive signification is not necessarily inherent in the word, and that it may, in proper cases, include [be limited to] artificial persons.
[Blacks Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, on page 773]
Note that this definition above does not necessarily imply a natural (biological) person. Therefore, the Internal Revenue Code cannot be said to necessarily apply to natural persons. Here is the proper definition of “individual” in the context of the IRS form 1040 and within the meaning of the code, as we understand it:
Individual
An artificial federally-chartered entity, meaning a federal (but not state) chartered corporation or partnership or trust. Such an entity is a citizen of the United States because it must have a physical presence in the District of Columbia to be subject to the exclusive legislative or territorial jurisdiction of the United States under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution. This individual is NOT a natural person with income from outside the district (federal) United States who is living and working for a private employer in the 50 united States of America because of the restrictions on direct taxes imposed by Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4, and Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution..>[1]
We will now examine the definition of individual found in 26 CFR §1.1441-1(c )(3):
26 CFR 1.1441-1 Requirement for the deduction and withholding of tax on payments to foreign persons.
(c ) Definitions
(3) Individual.
(i) Alien individual.
The term alien individual means an individual who is not a citizen or a national of the United States. See Sec. 1.1-1(c).
(ii) Nonresident alien individual.
The term nonresident alien individual means a person described in section 7701(b)(1)(B), an alien individual who is a resident of a foreign country under the residence article of an income tax treaty and Sec. 301.7701(b)-7(a)(1) of this chapter, or an alien individual who is a resident of Puerto Rico, Guam, the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, the U.S. Virgin Islands, or American Samoa as determined under Sec. 301.7701(b)-1(d) of this chapter. An alien individual who has made an election under section 6013 (g) or (h) to be treated as a resident of the United States is nevertheless treated as a nonresident alien individual for purposes of withholding under chapter 3 of the Code and the regulations thereunder.
The above definition ought to raise some BIG red flags! First of all, if you live in the [federal] United States** as a natural person, you arent an individual because the definition of individual doesnt include citizens or residents of the United States**! This is the ONLY definition of the term individual found ANYWHERE in either the Internal Revenue Code or the 26 CFR Regulations. Therefore, the tax code cant apply to you even if you claim to be a U.S.** citizen or a U.S.** resident! This is also consistent with our findings earlier. It also explains why a U.S. citizen is defined as someone who lives in the Virgin Islands, Guam, Puerto Rico, or American Samoa, as follows:
26 CFR 31.3121(e) State, United States, and citizen.
(b) The term ‘citizen of the United States’ includes a citizen of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands, and, effective January 1, 1961, a citizen of Guam or American Samoa.
The definition for individual that the government wants you to incorrectly assume, however, is that found below:
5 U.S.C. §552a(a)(2):
(2) the term ‘’individual’’ means a citizen of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence;
But this definition of individual is superseded by the only definition of individual found in the Regulations for taxes in 26 CFR 1.1441-1 above. You therefore cant be a individual who can be the person against whom the income tax is imposed under 26 U.S.C. §1 unless you either reside OUTSIDE the United States** under 26 CFR § 1.1441-1(c )(3) or you reside INSIDE the United States** and are not a U.S.** citizen. Thats why they created a definition of U.S. citizen that means you are living outside the United States (in the Virgin Islands) so they can pretend that you are taxable! That way, even when you tell them you live in the United States by giving them an address in the 50 states on your tax return, they can still claim that you live in Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands because of your status as a U.S. citizen! This whole scheme can be confirmed by ordering a copy of your Individual Master File (IMF) from the IRS and looking at the transaction codes on the IMF. If you look at your IMF and you have been filing 1040 forms for a while, chances are your record reflects that you reside in the Virgin Islands, even if you really live in one of the 50 states outside the federal zone! Thats why the IRS made the Publication 6209, which is used for decoding the IMF file, For Official Use Only, which is short for Dont let Citizens get their hands on this at all costs!. They know they are committing fraud and they dont want you, the Citizen, to know the horrible truth and expose that fraud, because then they lose their ability to claim plausible deniability.
I bet this all sounds pretty crazy to you, right, but I swear to God its the truth! These are the kinds of sneaky tricks that IRS lawyers make their living dreaming up in order to make the illegal fraud and extortion called the income tax look more civilized and believable and well hidden from public view. If they wanted it in public view, they would have put the definitions of “U.S. citizen” and individual in the Internal Revenue Code right? But they instead buried it deep inside regulations that few Citizens ever view and only the agency itself usually looks at because they wanted to hide it!
The above definitions of Alien individual and Nonresident alien individual in 26 CFR §1.1441(c )(3) can also seem a little confusing initially. You will find out that we suggest to people later in this book (in section 5.6.9 to be exact) that they should renounce their U.S.** citizenship and become U.S.*** nationals. However, looking at 26 CFR 1.1441-1(c )(3)(i) above leads one to believe that they cannot be a nonresident alien if they are a “U.S. national”. However, “nonresident aliens” are defined below:
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/CitesByTopic/individual.htm
Without having completely read the opinion, I agree that now all who voted for ObamaCare will have to defend their vote for a TAX! This is a very potent political add and debate tool for the conservatives. Look at the San Diego newspaper poll on this, last time I looked it was 63% against the USSC opinion on ObamaCare, (should now be called ObamaTax). So if the Tea Party and conservatives hammer the Dems with this TAX, they will attract a lot more Independents. My thoughts.
-PJ
I don’t think ANY democrat will have a hard time justifying a tax increase, it’s like a bodily function to them. They want to raise taxes, they exist to raise taxes and they’re proud to raise taxes. They will never be held to account from their constituents because most don’t pay taxes and they never will.
This non-decision decision, squib kick of a clusterfark has doomed the country. One day, sooner or later they will get all three branches and they will exercise this authority and it will be over. The door has been opened and as soon as the guard falls asleep, we will lose everything, including our virtue.
It was not a political calculation, his written decision was a suicide note.
I’m trying hard to remember the name of some movie from the mid-1980s, in which a terrorist/robber corners a man, kidnaps (then releases based on ransom) his wife, and demands the man’s car.
The man says OK, you can have the car.
So the thief gets in, gloating, thinking he’s pulled a fast one.
Then the man, as he is walking away, activates a remote device.
The doors to the car lock. The thief can’t undo them. He panics and hammers on the windows and yells to be let out.
Then the man activates the remote device again, and the car blows up.
What was the name of that movie?
Thanks for the information -
31 Questions and Answers about the Internal Revenue Service
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm
See #2
Answer: The IRS appears to be a collection agency working for foreign banks and operating out of Puerto Rico under color of the Federal Alcohol Administration (FAA).
True but we have to get our friends and families off their butts and into the campaign. GOP has proven they can’t win a race even when it’s handed to them on a silver platter, it’s up to us.
Let’s hit them with the tax, find ways to get Obamacare back in front of SCOTUS, and keep fighting.
If you spend a few weeks reading at the ‘Supremelaw.org’ site, you will learn chit loads about the law.
Go to the ‘Federal zone’,[Tagline] lots of good info.
When your done there let me know, I have other good sites that revel the truth about these Marxist b-—ards.
Unfortunately I can’t be of much help since I’m in the Philippines, but I can encourage my family in the states to get moving and involved. We must defeat Obama and every democrat up for re-election/election.
Easier to overturn a tax in the Senate than a *mandate*.
Also, States would have fewer problems if they declined all Federal aid.
H’mmm. That might mean declining educational block grants and therefore refusing the Federalization of education.
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