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To: sickoflibs
RE: But if you dont buy health insurance and you still dont pay the ‘fine’ they dont do anything to you, nothing, and you can still get insurance later after you get sick.

Man, the 25 million illegals are gonna love this.

Correct.

Shaking my head... I agree with the truth of this.

I think Republicans got off on the mandate because it is so unpopular (as are taxes) and they thought it had the best shot at being overturned, so today court said they cant force you to do something but they can tax you for not doing it.

I think it's fairly well known that I'm not a particularly strong advocate of GOPe thinking.  Here I am not critical of the Republicans challenging AHA based in part on the Constitutionality of the Health Care Mandate.  That was actually a policy decison that was born out by the SCOTUS ruling this morning.  As far as I am concerned, the Tax claim should have been laughed out of court on the face of it.  It was a ridiculous Hale Mary attempt.  That the court failed to see it that way, causes me to ponder the mental faculties of the court, not the idea I should rethink my own perception here.

Given the focus of the mandate as the boogyman Republicans lost sight of the fact that it's the popular handout mandates that kill off the private insurance industry, and the personal mandate is so weak it doesn't stop it.

It seems to me that a case could be made that the toothless mandate may have caused overall harm to the private insurance industry, since it was determined 100% participation would be the only way the private insurance industry could provide full coverage for everyone.

None the less, it seems to me that the mandates on small and larger business, did massive damage to the private insurance industry on it's own.  Across this nation, businesses are dropping their employee insurance coverage.  The business provision of insurance, facilitated a major portion of the private insurance business in the United States.  The AHA was designed to destroy the ability for business to continue providing insurance coverage.  The idea from the start was to get 100% of the populace off private insurance, and onto Obamacare.

That's what is taking place by design.


52 posted on 06/28/2012 12:27:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Here's a hypothetical I have used in the past.

Say Obama raised every-ones taxes by $800. But then he in the same bill it offered/passed a tax credit for those that have approved insurance, and that tax credit was the same $800, like the tax credit I got for insulation. So if you don't buy the proper insurance then you have to pay an additional $800 you didn't before the law, just like now except with real penalties. Constitutional? You see the problem?

This bill was designed to get employers to drop coverage and pay the small fine to kill off the employer insurance. The weak mandate was a side issue blown out of proportion.

55 posted on 06/28/2012 12:38:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: DoughtyOne

” The AHA was designed to destroy the ability for business to continue providing insurance coverage. The idea from the start was to get 100% of the populace off private insurance, and onto Obamacare.

That’s what is taking place by design.”

Exactly.


56 posted on 06/28/2012 12:43:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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