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To: Lakeshark; EternalVigilance; GailA; RitaOK; Tennessee Nana; Mountain Mary; Dr. Sivana; shibumi; ...
Lakeshark:

The defections from Romney need not be a majority even here. You can bet that they will be quite substantial and quite possibly sufficient. If Romney loses, he won't be back. Ditto Obozo. If Romney wins or if Obozo wins, the Resistance starts immediately thereafter (at the very latest). It does not end until both of them are politically destroyed.

The "it" that you don't think "most of 'us' won't fall for" is called conservatism. No compromise. No holds barred. Not now and not ever. Anyone who votes for Romney is NOT one of anything called "us." Repenting and penance would have to intervene. Enabling the likes of Romney is NOT conservatism, but cowering surrender.

Am I angry??? You bet I am. Mass baby-killing always angers me and Myth is a past master of baby-killing and honoring rump-ranging perversion as "marriage" and persecuting the Roman Catholic Church to which I proudly belong (and each and every other pro-life church) and gun grabbing and naming social revolutionary judges and.....

In 2008, I am ashamed to say that I took your position on third party efforts and argued hard against Tom Hoefling here on the subject. We just had to vote for McCain or the boogie man would get us. Hoefling was right and I was a sap who cast his last RINO vote for McCain. May the light bulb go on over your head too. When I vote for Tom Hoefling, it will feel good and will be the first time since 1984 and 1980 that I won't feel an immediate need for a shower. Bush II wasn't so bad (certainly not as bad as his uberRINO parents) but it is long past time for political revolution and time to take out the trash in BOTH parties.

The GOP, until its inevitable death from RINOism should be used like a whore house (no more marriage to the GOP) to nominate decent candidates for Senate, House and Governorships and state legislative seats (i.e., develop a farm team for a principled replacement party to come). The GOP: use it, abuse it and dump it in the sewer of history when we are done with it. The money above everything GOP deserves to die like its Federalist and Whig predecessors and for the same reasons.

If the GOP wants my vote it will have to earn it. Dump Romney. Nominate Sarah Palin. Hard line platform. Trash Obozo as only Sarah can or will. Choose a VP and cabinet in advance including Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Perry (but only if he dumps Dewhurst), John Bolton, and others similarly disposed and rip Obozo to shreds.

50 posted on 06/17/2012 7:30:25 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: BlackElk

You said it all, BlackElk.

There isn’t any “answer” to what you’re saying, but there’s bound to be some noise coming from those who are having difficulty coming to terms with the truth. Their candidate is doomed.


53 posted on 06/17/2012 7:50:56 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: BlackElk

Good rejoinder. This person sums it up quite well.

http://kevincraig.us/tempsec.htm

Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

What is the opposite of “LIBERTY?” The answer is: SLAVERY.

What is the opposite of “SAFETY?” Some might answer: DANGER. But that’s not the correct answer in this context. In the context of Ben Franklin and the American Revolution, the opposite of “SAFETY” is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Samuel Adams said the opposite of SAFETY is “the animating contest of freedom.” And in certain situations, Sam Adams said the opposite of LIBERTY is WEALTH. Here is the quote from Sam Adams. “Tranquility” is what Franklin described as “temporary safety”:

In a state of tranquillity, wealth, and luxury, our descendants would forget the arts of war* and the noble activity and zeal which made their ancestors invincible. Every art of corruption would be employed to loosen the bond of union which renders our resistance formidable. When the spirit of liberty, which now animates our hearts and gives success to our arms*, is extinct, our numbers will accelerate our ruin and render us easier victims to tyranny. If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!
* Note that Adams and the Founding Fathers believed they were engaged in a defensive war against tyranny.

America’s Founding Fathers would say that Americans today are slaves. Wealthy slaves, but still slaves. Slaves that enjoy luxury and tranquility, but still slaves.

Sam Adams tossed tea into the Boston Harbor rather than be subjected to a tax of 3 pence per pound. How much tax do you pay on each gallon of gas you buy?

Why do you pay 20 times more in taxes than America’s Founding Fathers? Because you think the government guarantees you “the good life.” You have your own computer, central air conditioning, a DVD player in your SUV, and you think the government made all of this possible.

Most people think that if you have wealth, you have Liberty. There is an element of truth to this. But it is also one of the most dangerous myths of the century in which we live, as Sam Adams can help us see. We think of slaves as being poor, deprived of all wealth. Sam Adams will help us see that we now live in the century of wealthy slaves living in luxury.

From ME:
Reading of the Founding Fathers should be required starting in the 5th grade, and not the LIBERAL edited version. The Constitution started in the 6th and every year there after until graduation. Pound it into the skulls full of mush as much as you can. Ever watch the Postman with Kevin Costner? Try it, or Solient Green or Logan’s Run, might open some eyes. 1984 just took a little longer.

I may not be able to express as eloquently as BlackElk, but his/her thoughts march with what I was brought up believing America was and should be. It is not the America I live in today. I am to much the Celt to except slavery easily.


56 posted on 06/17/2012 10:42:28 PM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: BlackElk
If the GOP wants my vote it will have to earn it. Dump Romney. Nominate Sarah Palin. Hard line platform. Trash Obozo as only Sarah can or will.

There is no greater supporter of Palin than I am. If you haven't noticed she isn't trying for your scenario rather she has thrown her support to the presumptive GOP nominee as she said she would.

ABO, that's her stand, and unfortunately the only ABO that can defeat Bambi is our least conservative candidate.

She didn't and won't ever support Tom whatshisname because that's a pipe dream, one that will inadvertently hurt all conservative candidates and causes if he were to muster even 1% of the vote.

Fortunately, that's not gonna happen. I stand with her position, and Newt's, and Santorum's, and Perry's, and Cain's, and DeMint's. ABO, the only one who can beat him.

62 posted on 06/18/2012 5:58:45 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: BlackElk
If the GOP wants my vote it will have to earn it. Dump Romney. Nominate Sarah Palin. Hard line platform. Trash Obozo as only Sarah can or will.

Choose a VP and cabinet in advance including Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Perry (but only if he dumps Dewhurst), John Bolton, and others similarly disposed and rip Obozo to shreds.

Speak it, brother. Loud and often.

The GOP is literally committing Treason against everything we stand for, and against everything their party is supposed to represent, by nominating a liberal Democrat sporting an R on his sleeve.

I will not throw away my priceless honor and integrity to support that, nor will I willingly give the GOP my blessing to turn the Republican party into the 'other' Socialist party.

63 posted on 06/18/2012 7:13:44 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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