Posted on 06/11/2012 9:17:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
"All officers of government in this country, in every branch, at every level, have as the first obligation of their sacred oath the protection of all innocent lives within their jurisdiction.
Should I be elected to the office of President of the United States, I will keep my oath.
Justice Blackmun, in Roe vs. Wade, admitted that “of course” the child in the womb is protected by the Fourteenth Amendment, if they are a person.
Since it is self-evident that they are a person, my first act as President, after having sworn the oath, will be to publish a presidential finding to that effect.
My second act will be to ask for the resignation of anyone in the executive branch who will not act accordingly.
My third act will be to order the closing of every abortion facility in the country, as per the explicit, imperative requirement of the Supreme Law of the Land.
'No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.'
'No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.'”
-- Tom Hoefling
I've told no lies. That you appear to reject the “hard cases” is commendable. I do, too. You, me, and maybe about 20% of everyone else.
But over half of folks view themselves as pro-life, and about 60% of folks would ban abortion entirely... Except in the hard cases - rape, incest, life of the mother.
As these cases represent only a few percent of abortions (and virtually none in the case of life of the mother), I'd be happy to take that compromise now, looking for the “whole loaf” some time down the road.
But for now, most pro-lifers would be offended if you called them pro-abort because they buy the exceptions for “hard cases.”
And they would be right. Folks who are opposed to 96+% of abortions aren't pro-abort.
sitetest
You said Reagan didn’t sign that bill into law. That is not the truth.
Your nastiness aside.
Yes, you are backing Romney, supporting Romney, promoting Romney.
Evidently you are such a romneybot that you must attack anyone who will not support your candidate.
That is why you first posted me, you want me to vote for your man, Mitt.
He is not a ‘silly nobody’. He’s been around Freerepublic for a long time. He is the same EV who has refused to have any compromise to roll back abortion in a stepwise fashion, thus facilitating the continued slaughter because the efforts have not been pure enough to suit him. In sahort, he has either consciously or inadvertently been using the issues on abortion as his tool to rise in importance, at least in his own mind. He knows freepers are against abortion, but he maintains such a radical purity test that he facilitates the continued levels of slaughter. Even when the ban on partial birth abortion was going on, he would not agree that there should be a ban because it did not go far enough and ban All abortions. And this stuff of using the military to close abortuaries, I mean, how can you take a man seriously who is all for ignoring posse comitatus to achieve his dictatorial rule?
Agreed.
I have indeed.
Here's one nice little synopsis of it:
The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of local governments and law enforcement agencies in using federal military personnel to enforce the laws of the land. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the Army from exercising state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it simply requires that any authority to do so must exist with the United States Constitution or Act of Congress. In this way, most use of the Army and the Air Force at the direction of the President does not offend the statute, even though it may be problematic for other reasons (politically).
The statute only addresses the US Army and, since 1956, the US Air Force. It does not refer to, and thus does not restrict or apply to, the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor (in its federal capacity, the National Guard forms part of the Army or Air Force of the United States). The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive (self-regulation), but not by the Act itself.[1][2] Although it is a military force,[3] the U.S. Coast Guard, which now operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.
Well it means that the military can’t be used for law enforcement means at all. You are just a two bit fascist wanna be. What next you want the Federal Government to control in what we view the on the internet?? How we practice religion? What else you will have the Federal Government do for us??
No, calling me an idiot (which you did, on a different thread) insults me. Telling someone that they're acting out of fear is observation of a fact/opinion, quite different than an insult. It's kind of like calling a kid who steals a candy bar stupid (an insult that is destrucive) or telling a kid he behaved stupidly (an observation designed to help the kid do better).
I guess you think that's pretty slick, eh? Or do you refrain from telling your kids that they behaved stupidly because you think it would be the same thing as telling them that they were stupid?
Lurkers, all, please consider that the behavior of the folks pushing ABO speaks volumes about ABO and Romney.
Its for our own good.
Dear driftdiver,
I don’t believe I said any such thing.
Rather, I stated what was in the law - an allowance for “hard cases,” which most current PRO-LIFERS accept.
The actual text of the law allowed only for these exceptions, but it was abused to allow nearly abortion on demand.
And then-Gov. Reagan regretted signing the law almost immediately.
sitetest
Yet he signed the bill, which shows support. hence my comment that he once supported abortion. Which was the truth. So type out all your dear so and so, it doesn’t change the truth.
Seriously, do you think he didn’t know the law would be abused? He was a smart man, he knew and he made a mistake.
And readers will note that your effort to try and use red herring methodology is a dishonest tactic not usually successful at FR. You’re among Freepers, Finny. Try a bit more sophisticated methods. “all” bwahahaha, hit a truth nerve I see, Finny.
But for its INTENT, a lie, as you know. You are fast to criticize Obama on many issues ... it's rich that Romney, whom you promote as "better" than Obama, truly IS pro-gay, pro-global warming, pro-abortion, pro-state-run health care, and pro-activist judges. I don't have to lie or rationalize or be devious -- it is simple TRUTH to say that of Romney.
In order to argue in favor of voting for Romney, you deceptively argue that because Reagan signed that bill, it equals being pro-abortion.
Yet I'll bet that if I called you a Romney supporter, if I said to all and sundry that Romney was YOUR guy, you'd object. Because although you're willing to vote for him, he isn't really your guy. Just like although Reagan signed the bill, he wasn't really pro-abortion.
So yeah, in intent -- you lied.
Dear driftdiver,
His signing the bill no more indicated he was pro-abort than support for the exceptions granted by the law by most current pro-lifers. Are you saying that folks who want to ban 96+% of abortions are pro-abort?
As for whether he knew it would be abused, Mr. Reagan said he didn’t. Are you now falsely accusing President Ronald Reagan a liar?
sitetest
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Enforcing the most important purpose of the Constitution, which is the defense of the lives of all innocent people in the land, does no violence to the Posse Comitatus Act.
Dear driftdiver,
His signing the bill no more indicated he was pro-abort than support for the exceptions granted by the law by most current pro-lifers. Are you saying that folks who want to ban 96+% of abortions are pro-abort?
As for whether he knew it would be abused, Mr. Reagan said he didn’t. Are you now falsely accusing President Ronald Reagan a liar?
sitetest
Signing a bill which allows abortion is a move which supports abortion, otherwise you wouldn’t sign the bill.
Kinda simple
Dear driftdiver,
Fallacy of equivocation.
sitetest
good night francis
the OP is suggesting using the military to enforce his religious beliefs and you are off on tangents.
a total waste of time
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