Tom Hoefling: "I will shut down every abortion facility in the country"

Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | June 11, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

[EternalVigilance]

"All officers of government in this country, in every branch, at every level, have as the first obligation of their sacred oath the protection of all innocent lives within their jurisdiction.

Should I be elected to the office of President of the United States, I will keep my oath.

Justice Blackmun, in Roe vs. Wade, admitted that “of course” the child in the womb is protected by the Fourteenth Amendment, if they are a person.

Since it is self-evident that they are a person, my first act as President, after having sworn the oath, will be to publish a presidential finding to that effect.

My second act will be to ask for the resignation of anyone in the executive branch who will not act accordingly.

My third act will be to order the closing of every abortion facility in the country, as per the explicit, imperative requirement of the Supreme Law of the Land.

'No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.'

'No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.'”

-- Tom Hoefling

[Finny]

Ross Perot. I made that mistake, once.

And at the time, I was furious with the likes of you. I lived and learned: I see now that it can be argued pretty strongly that that "mistake," which reduced Clinton to a 43% plurality "victory" (57% of Americans OPPOSED him), made possible the Republican Revolution and the enormous changes for the better it brought this nation.

The only mistake is voting against your better judgment and common sense. Romney would be a mistake: he is and has always been hostile to the interests of limited government conservatism.

[EternalVigilance]

If your criteria is nothing more than “winning,” what will you have “won” with the election of a pro-choice democrat with an R by his name, in the unlikely event that should occur?

“What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?”

[ansel12]

I was Pro-choice. Back when we were told that babies in the womb were blobs of tissue, when the only Ultrasound that was done on my sisters was the one for my nephew with birth defects and when it was hard to know who was right with little information and no internet. Lots of conservatives back then in my age group were Pro-Choice out of ignorance.

Wow, 1992? After two decades of the abortion wars? After the Reagan Revolution and the massive pro-life movement and the lines being drawn, you were still a pro-abortion liberal?

Aren't you one of our more aggressive promoters of Romney? He was also anti-Reagan, anti-prolife, anti-conservative, in fact he had dropped his republican registration and voted for Paul Tsongas during the Democrat primary in the same year that you were voting pro-abortion and third party, Romney probably voted for Perot or Clinton also in the general election.

[EternalVigilance]

After law enforcement officials, the courts and prosecutors on the state and federal levels all ignore your order, what do you do next?

Uphold the Supreme Law of the Land.

Sorry, that's not optional.

[driftdiver]

Fuzzy math

[mvpel]

In the physical sense, there is no greater tyranny that can be enacted on the people than to kill them.

Does refusing to donate a kidney to someone who will die without it enact tyranny upon them? If every woman's uterus is going to be the property of the state, then why not one of everyone's kidneys too?

[driftdiver]

Don’t cha know Mom, you can’t ever make a mistake or learn something with the likes of this guy.

You must be born with all the right idea or you just aren’t good enough. Never mind that people like him have sat back voting for third parties and throwing tantrums while politics and policy drives right by.

[Trailerpark Badass]

ugh, is this what passes for logic here now?

Embarrassing.

[driftdiver]

Abortion is murder. Not donating a kidney is not murder.

[Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand]

Let me rephrase.....

After your order is declared to be unconstitutional and the local police and prosecutors refuse to shut down the abortion clinics, what do you do next?

When the Department of Justice and the FBI both tell you that you are on your own, what do you do?

Even if you showed up individually at the abortion clinics, the police would prevent you from closing any of them. So what would be your plan next?

[driftdiver]

“Uphold the Supreme Law of the Land. “

How?

[allmendream]

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

The Constitution that you have no respect for and a very limited understanding of.

Your delusions were amusing. Now they are just sad and tawdry.

[ansel12]

Other than showing your ignorance about my voting past, you jumped in just to make a pure personal attack with nothing adult to contribute?

We don’t know what upset you, insulting Romney, implying that being pro-abortion is liberal, digging up unpleasant memories of yours from 1992 and 1996?

[so_real]

...and if Obama wins???

And, if Obama wins, or Tom Hoefling wins, or Virgil Goode wins a clear message is sent to the GOPe that conservatism (ie. Scott Walker) wins elections and not republicanism (ie. Mitt Romney). The republican brand is not damaged by Romney leadership. Conservatism is not redefined. And, as such, other conservative candidates on the congressional ballot in 2014 won't lose their opportunity through association. We will retain the House and gain the Senate. And, in all likely-hood, we will gain a majority sufficient to not only gridlock Obama's efforts in 2014, but also to push our own. Obama remains in the hot seat with regard to his history and actions and the window to impeach or arrest him remains open. He will either walk back his pre-2012 promises to the liberal extremists, and thereby damage the democrat brand, or he will fight to push them forward regardless and lose the independents in 2016. Either way, in 2016, the republicans will have a second shot at electing a truly conservative president.

If we elect Romney in 2012, we sacrifice the republican brand and lose both houses in 2014/2016. Hopefully Romney too will go in 2016. But whether he stays or goes, we will have one helluva fight for POTUS in 2020 with the very real probability of defeat as the GOPe will have learned nothing from Romney's "success". After all, they got what they wanted. If he we elect *anyone* else, we continue to make gains in 2014, unify our players toward a common goal and in defence of a common opponent, get a second chance in 2016 of electing a truly conservative president, and perhaps enjoy that president's second term in 2020.

It's not a "great conspiracy" theory. It's just an observation from an analytical mind as to what I would do if I pitched for the other team. As it happens, history will either show I was right or wrong. But as the signs continue to point to Obama throwing the election, I hope people wake up to what is truly at stake here and not just what they are being fed on TV.

[netmilsmom]

>>Wow, 1992? After two decades of the abortion wars? After the Reagan Revolution and the massive pro-life movement and the lines being drawn, you were still a pro-abortion liberal?<<

Yep!
I was a Pro-”choice” conservative. As were a whole ton of young people around me. We said cool to anything under 12 weeks cause we were told that wasn’t a baby. Ya didn’t hop onto the internet back then and it wasn’t until Clinton and the Partial birth abortion ban came around that I paid attention. God forgave me. It doesn’t matter whether you do or not.

>>Aren’t you one of our more aggressive promoters of Romney? <<

Nope. You must be mistaking me for another mom. I have a long posting history of supporting Cain, Newt, dabbled in Perry and Santorum. They all left me. Now I’m “Anybody that can beat Obama.”

If Romney decided not to run tomorrow (or something delightful happens at the convention) I would be doing a happy dance in the streets.

And actually, I’m not sure how many Romney supporters are left. Between the last election and this one, most of them were silenced or zotted. Me? Never have been. I’m just ABO.

[driftdiver]

Set the record for the shortest term before impeachment.

[ansel12]

You should have that post 51 that was made to you removed, it is disgusting.

[driftdiver]

awww you don’t like other people doing what you do.

[netmilsmom]

>>Don’t cha know Mom, you can’t ever make a mistake or learn something with the likes of this guy.

You must be born with all the right idea or you just aren’t good enough. <<

You and I know, no one IS perfect! I’ve made some mistakes in my life. I just have to work to get rid of Obama and have a country for my kids!

[driftdiver]

I remember being taught the evils of ‘back alley coat hanger abortions’ in public school. How great Roe vs Wade was for women.

Church never spoke about it and my mom was working all the time.

Guess I should be stoned too.