Obama's family fraudulent identity.

Myself | June 11, 2012 | Myself

[plenipotentiary]

Both Barack Obama II and Stanley Ann Dunham are invented personas.

A male child was born, probably son of Malcolm X and an unknown woman possibly Jo Ann Newman (per Martha Trowbridge). The childs father knew his days were numbered so to protect his only son he arranged with his Muslim and Communist contacts, to have him brought up in Indonesia under the protection of President Sukarno. He was a member of the Presidents extended family and under the direct protection of a high ranking Indonesian special forces officer, Pak Lolo Soetoro (which was probably not his real name). Soetoro did have a wife, and Obama believed her to be his mother, but she was not.

Sukarno was removed from power in March 1967.

In 1971, Obama II was moved to Hawaii, at that point the character of Stanley Ann Dunham was created (the birth certificate they use is illegible and that indicates that it does not support the created identity, and therefor everything after that in her story is also false) to allow a connection with communist agents, the Dunham family, and allow Obama II to be mentored in Communism by Frank Marshall Davis. The Dunhams probably had a son called Stanley Armour Dunham Junior (fate unknown). They initially changed the first names to Shirley Ann, and then ridiculously to Stanley Ann Dunham. SAD was never in Seattle, Why would she go to University there and take a night school or correspondance course)

Obama I was introduce briefy as Obama II's fake father. There probably was a real son of Obama I, but he was sidelined (maybe the Roman Obama who was stranded in KGB training school in Moscow)and the person we now know as Barack Obama II took his identity.

Obama II is a creature of the KGB and the Muslim Brotherhood, who both share aims to impose their way of life on the USA.

[Fantasywriter]

It does appear that a lot of people on Mercer Island have shut up, and at least one of them was requested to do so. SAD’s best friend, however, did not shut up. She gave an interview which I read online. It didn't sound strained, artificial or fabricated. It sounded like the real, honest reminiscences of one older friend about another. If everything Maxine Box said was a lie, how did they induce her to lie so well? And how did they know prior to making the deceitful proposition that Box would go along?

[Fantasywriter]

You and me both. :)

[Fred Nerks]

... And what if, instead of going along, Maxine Box had said, “No thanks; I'd prefer to tell the truth about my best friend.”?

What appears to have escaped you is that no one went to any of these so-called classmates, THEY CAME FORWARD OF THEIR OWN ACCORD as the result of the numerous questions being asked right from the beginning - WHERE DID SHE GO TO SCHOOL? And where was she in that period from the so-called birth until the kenyan son of a goat herder abandoned her in Hawaii when the boy was two years old. ( chuckle)

Because when it came down to her education and where-abouts, all it says in Dreams is that the family moved to Seattle so she could finish high school.

Freepers in particular wanted to know, just where did she go to school, and where was she...

That's when you got Susan Blake and Maxine and a half-dozen others with their stories, and a video of the teachers being interviewed which contradict the vague Dreams timeline, a book that has no chronolgy btw.

You offer nothing. You don't read links. All you are interested in is trying to show that SAD was a teenage communist who gave birth to a child in Kenya.

Everytime I attempt to open the conversation into a wider region, you come along, without being addressed and with your snide attitute, stifle the discussion and turn it into a bun fight.

Plentipotentiary, if you care to write to me freepmail, I would be happy to continue the discussion. Sharing information here, as you suggested, has become impossible.

[Fantasywriter]

Nothing I have said is snide; please stop misrepresenting me. You are one-hundred percent wrong about my motives, so please stop misrepresenting them. I don’t want a fight, and have no idea what a ‘bun fight’ is anyway.

I asked an honest question which you simply will not answer. Nor were you correct in what you just wrote. Reporter Nicole Brodeur most certainly did approach Maxine Box. The interview is poignant, and doesn’t smack of lies. Who induced Box to lie so well, and how was it done? Where is your evidence that it was done at all? And why can’t you engage in a calm, polite discussion? I’m not insulting you; please stop insulting me.

[Fred Nerks]

‘...Gramps returned from the war never having seen real combat, and the family headed to California, where he enrolled at Berkeley under the GI bill. But the classroom couldn’t contain his ambitions, his restlessness, and so the family moved again, first back to Kansas, then through a series of small Texas towns, then finally to Seattle, where they stayed long enough for my mother to finish high school. Gramps worked as a furniture salesman; they bought a house and found themselves bridge partners. They were pleased that my mother proved bright in school, although when she was offered early admission into the University of Chicago, my grandfather forbade her to go, deciding that she was still too young to be living on her own...’

(excerpt, "Dreams from my Father")

I imagine that if Maxine had a genuine image of Stanley Ann Dunham after she was photographed here in 1958, she would have supplied it to Getty images?

[Fantasywriter]

Or else that just happened to be Maxine Box’s favorite photo of her friend. Maybe something about it particularly appealed to ‘Max’; we just don’t know.

[Fred Nerks]

I have three group images of the class of 1960, years eight of high school through to year 10 in which Maxine and a couple of other ‘classmates’ are shown, but there is no Stanley Ann Dunham in all three of them. She should be there. The groups are A.B.C.D. of the alphabet.
WHERE IS STANLEY ANN DUNHAM?

It looks like Maxine knew her until some time in 1958. After that, there’s no sign of her.

TO DATE THERE’S BEEN NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF SAD AT MERCER ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL. GET BACK TO ME IF YOU FIND IT.

[Fred Nerks]

CORECTION:

IN RELATION TO THE ABOVE:

To date there’s been no physical evidence of SAD at Mercer Island High School after 1958.

[Fantasywriter]

Maxine Box said SAD was there. What evidevce do you have that Box was lying?

[Fred Nerks]

ZERO SAYS HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII. WHAT EVIDENCE HAVE YOU THAT HE WAS BORN IN KENYA?

Maxine hasn’t, as far as I am aware, made the mistake of saying that she and SAD graduated together in the same year. She calls her a ‘classmate’ - she’s careful. If Maxine could show you ANYTHING that places her with SAD at graduation, you would have seen it by now.
But she gives Getty an image from 1958. Why? Because she isn’t stupid. She’s not going to give Getty a FAKE.

I’m through. It’s like kindergarten.

[Fantasywriter]

Maxine Box recounts particular incidents from her friendship w SAD, including from their senior yr. Also, TheObamaFile, which is considered by many [if not most] conservatives to be an excellent source of info re: Obama [if not one of the *all time best* sources of Obama-related info] states specifically that SAD completed her senior year and graduated from Mercer Island High School w the class of 1960.

Can you name a reputable source that states specifically that SAD did NOT graduate from Mercer Island High School? It seems to me that all you have is speculation, whereas sources such as TheObamaFile have researched the subject thoroughly.

[Fred Nerks]

The Obama File picks up the same articles you and I and anyone else can read on the web, it’s a very useful repository.

Beckwith hasn’t compiled it to stop you from needing to THINK.

[Fantasywriter]

If SAD really hadn't graduated from Mercer Island, someone or other would have tumbled to some *facts* on that matter by now. I do trust TheObamaFile, as well as the many other sources I've turned up in just a matter of days researching the subject. The conspiracy required to keep everyone who knew SAD didn't graduate from Mercy Island quiet is simply too big. Someone or other would have let slip the truth by now, if the truth is as you've speculated.

Unless you can provide something more than mere conjecture, I'm going where the evidence has led me. Maxine Box doesn't come across as a liar, and you've provided no evidence that she lied anyway. Please let me know when you turn up some real, *documented* evidence that bolsters your claims. Till then, I'll side w the facts as I've learned them to date.

[Fred Nerks]

It wasn’t I who said Maxine lied, it was you. I am showing you a photograph that Maxine supplied to Getty from 1958 and suggesting that if she has something that placed her with SAD at a class of 1960 event or graduation she would have used it.
You have a serious problem, you make a statement and then accuse others of making the statement YOU made.
All you have contributed is WORDS.

btw, I attempted to reply to a comment made by another freeper, and once again, you jumped in with your insinuating method of making a question into an accusation.

Rest assured, I will never bother to reply to you again, I am an idiot to keep trying. Your intention is only to stifle any form of debate. Are you sure your name isn’t Maxine?

[Brown Deer]

lol, "Copyright 1958 Maxine Box"

[Brown Deer]

Maxine Judy Hanson did not marry Robert E. Box until December 21, 1968. Besides a high school student has no rights to copyright another student’s yearbook photo.

[WildHighlander57]

FredNerks,

Could you scan and post them?

Good find, a 1960 class picture with grades 8-10!

But that would have missed the people in 12th grade graduating in ‘60.

We need the rest of the book, grades 11 and 12)

[Brown Deer]

Maxine Box doesn't come across as a liar, and you've provided no evidence that she lied anyway.

She's a liar. Her name was not Maxine Box until ten years after her falsely claimed copyright.

[Fred Nerks]

They are not from a book, they are group images. Grades 8,9 and ten with some of the students identified by the daughter of one of them.
And sorry, I can not post them. If they are seen by the ‘wrong’ people, they will certainly disappear from the webpages where I found them. I do have screencaps, but it’s important they remain where they are while the research is ongoing.

[Fred Nerks]

They are not from a book, they are individual group images. Grades 8,9 and ten with some of the students identified by the daughter of one of them.
And sorry, I can not post them. If they are seen by the ‘wrong’ people, they will certainly disappear from the webpages where I found them. I do have screencaps, but it’s important they remain where they are while the research is ongoing.