Obama's family fraudulent identity.

Myself | June 11, 2012 | Myself

[plenipotentiary]

Both Barack Obama II and Stanley Ann Dunham are invented personas.

A male child was born, probably son of Malcolm X and an unknown woman possibly Jo Ann Newman (per Martha Trowbridge). The childs father knew his days were numbered so to protect his only son he arranged with his Muslim and Communist contacts, to have him brought up in Indonesia under the protection of President Sukarno. He was a member of the Presidents extended family and under the direct protection of a high ranking Indonesian special forces officer, Pak Lolo Soetoro (which was probably not his real name). Soetoro did have a wife, and Obama believed her to be his mother, but she was not.

Sukarno was removed from power in March 1967.

In 1971, Obama II was moved to Hawaii, at that point the character of Stanley Ann Dunham was created (the birth certificate they use is illegible and that indicates that it does not support the created identity, and therefor everything after that in her story is also false) to allow a connection with communist agents, the Dunham family, and allow Obama II to be mentored in Communism by Frank Marshall Davis. The Dunhams probably had a son called Stanley Armour Dunham Junior (fate unknown). They initially changed the first names to Shirley Ann, and then ridiculously to Stanley Ann Dunham. SAD was never in Seattle, Why would she go to University there and take a night school or correspondance course)

Obama I was introduce briefy as Obama II's fake father. There probably was a real son of Obama I, but he was sidelined (maybe the Roman Obama who was stranded in KGB training school in Moscow)and the person we now know as Barack Obama II took his identity.

Obama II is a creature of the KGB and the Muslim Brotherhood, who both share aims to impose their way of life on the USA.

[philman_36]

I wouldn’t tell you the time of day after this.
I don't need you to, I have a watch and a clock.

[Ditter]

I don't really consider myself to be a “birther” just sort of hopeful that he will be found out to be a total fraud and kicked out of the WH by whatever means.

But this strikes me as just so much BS and crazy talk.

[philman_36]

Well, that’s a little more like it, and thank you...

See, now we're back to you'll be considering me a sphincter again 'cause you'll read my smart ass quip above and we're right back to you not ever telling me the time of day again 'cause of lag time between reading and posting.

[philman_36]

...present tense is currently being compiled.

So in a round about way you're saying that it should never have even been mentioned that the real mother's name was known until all of the information was compiled?

[Fred Nerks]

...from material that is generally available and totally public.

That's what I wrote, because that's where we found it, and you could have found it too, had you bothered to read the published material carefully as some did.

For an example, can you tell me when the baby-sitter in Seattle said she baby-sat for Anna Obama? Can you tell me how old her own daughter was when that supposed period was?

I am totally tired of this exchange btw, you are accusing me of withholding information that you could have found yourself, and DEMANDING I tell the same story, post the same links I have been posting for YEARS, and each time I did, most of the time all I got back was stupid three-liners about how Frank Marshall Davis was his father and/or Madelyn had an affair with him, or Stanley Armour Dunham had a relationship with a barmaid and he brought the kid home for Madelyn to look after like it was a stray cat!

Take a good look at yourself, before you criticise me. I've had it up to the neck. I'm going mushrooming in Tassie and might never bother to come back. Mushrooms make more sense.

[Fred Nerks]

YES.

[philman_36]

"...from material that is generally available and totally public."

That's what I wrote, because that's where we found it...
So the name of his "real" mother is to be found in the public domain? Then simply give a link.
Since you've cut and pasted so many images over the years surely one more link wouldn't be too much to ask.

For an example, can you tell me when the baby-sitter in Seattle said she baby-sat for Anna Obama?
According to you...But we do know, from Mary the baby-sitter, that she baby-sat for ANNA OBAMA in January 1961, when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was 18 months old.
Anna Obama was NOT Stanley Ann Dunham. When the child Mary babysat was conceived, SAD was still in high school (somewhere) and the Dunhams had not yet arrived in Hawaii.

So who is Anna Obama?

See, I have kept up. And I can find stuff if I haven't kept up.

[philman_36]

...you are accusing me of withholding information that you could have found yourself...
I've read so much stuff it's mind boggling! I've even waded through your mountains of stuff!

You say Anna Obama isn't Stanley Ann Dunham yet you don't say anywhere who Anna Obama really is!

[Fantasywriter]

“But this strikes me as just so much BS and crazy talk.”

Post of the day.

And I AM a birther. A big time birther from way back, but this theory is twaddle, pure and simple.

[philman_36]

And see, this is where you throw me totally for a loop...

I said..."So in a round about way you're saying that it should never have even been mentioned that the real mother's name was known until all of the information was compiled?"

To which you replied...YES.

So if it's so important not to let the cat out of the bag that the real name is known then why did you make that statement back in September of 2011?

Is Anna Obama his real mother and, if so, why did you release that information before all of the information was compiled?

[philman_36]

@WHO WAS ANNA OBAMA?

That's you asking that question.

[Fred Nerks]

I did not say Anna Obama is the 'real mother' but what I did do is repeatedly show there were two little boys - one a little older than the other, one light skinned, one dark, one is shown with his father and Ruth in Kenya, the other is zero. Please don't ask me to go through that again. I really really am tired of repeating myself. I know what to anticapte, a dozen or so experts will show up and tell me that one of the boys is David. There never was a David, a number of people have tried hard to find any evidence that a David existed. No one could find him. Died in a motor accident did he? How very convenient.

HERE'S THE PHOTOGRAPH ONE MORE TIME:

Hasn't it struck anyone yet that if zero and that dark boy were together, it was the older boy who was the son of the kenyan, and that it was his mother who ended up 'the wife from whom he was separated, living in the Philippines' according to the INS documents?

Now watch the smart-a$$es come out of the woodwork. The usual explanation I get is the reason the boy on the left is the spitting image of zero is because his father was the same man. But one of those boys ended up in Kenya, around 1965 or 1966, because that's Ruth there holding Mark, who was born the year after she went to Kenya, in late 1964.

The result is simply that you do not know who zero's parents were or where he was born or when his birthdate is.

The first time you see zero (aside from a baby photo on his own) is in the two little boys image, and then shortly afterwards, Stanley Ann is shown holding him sitting on the fence...and that's why we laughingly call her The Nanny. If they had a photograph of SAD with zero as a baby, we would have seen it by now. She simply wasn't there until the kid was two or three years old, around the same time as the dark boy shows up in Kenya.

Btw, the original of the two little boys was posted by Mark Ndesandjo on his own website and the image, after a short period of showing a similar image that was untinted, (not mauve, but black and white) which made the two boys appear to be the same skin colour, the image of the two little boys has been removed from the website.

Now watch the nay-sayers appear like flies to compost. Their devotion to 'David' is as strong as it is to the Stanley Ann Dunham mother-myth.

It's well past time for an epiphany.

[little jeremiah]

The original vanity is not the same as many of the comments and info on the thread. If you read the whole thread you may see information that is not twaddle.

[Fantasywriter]

I’ve read the entire thread. And you’re right—not all of it is twaddle. Some of the comments on it are mine, and they make very good sense. Some of the other comments do too, so your point is well taken.

[Fred Nerks]

...So who is Anna Obama?

well, she's obviously the person who was listed in the Seattle directories, whom Charlette Le Fevre maintains she found, and before that, she was mentioned in an article written by Rick Anderson...and we are supposed to accept their identification of her as Stanley Ann Dunham.

[Fred Nerks]

I just clicked on the link you provided, you’ve got all you are going to get from me, you just caused me to repeat myself one more time, you had all I was EVER prepared to make public while others are still analysing what our research (from sources in the public domain)has shown.
Have you always been such a manipulator? I really could have devoted my time much better than this. This discussion is finished.

[philman_36]

I did not say Anna Obama is the 'real mother'...
I know! You've skated all around it while implying that the information on the real mother's ID is "generally available and totally public".

The result is simply that you do not know who zero's parents were or where he was born or when his birthdate is.
Yet you've been vociferously telling me to lay off from asking the one person who said they did know the ID of the real mother from revealing who it is.
So why did you interject yourself into the conversation at reply 350 to start with then?

My whole purpose on this thread has been about getting that information out into the public realm from the person who seems to be holding that info!

Your pictures and suppositions are just that...pictures and suppositions.
...the original of the two little boys was posted by Mark Ndesandjo...
And you can't even verify if the pictures are real and aren't photo shopped as they're not "your" pictures to begin with!

[philman_36]

...you just caused me to repeat myself one more time...
I didn't cause you to do a damn thing. You chose of your own accord to repeat yourself. (see psychological conditioning - repetition)

Have you always been such a manipulator?
Have you always been so calculated?

[philman_36]

Oh, look!
You've got the same pics up in a reply from December 20, 2011

I see that your pic source has changed from
http://markobamandesandjo.com/images/341_MarkDavid.jpg to
to...http://wtpotus.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mark-david-photo-ali.jpg?w=500

[Fred Nerks]

You dimwit, that’s because Mark took the images off his webpage. But you can pick it up on Google Images by searching under his name, and one of the first to come up will be the one shown on the WTPOTUS.COM blog.
Them’s pretty strong hooch they makes in Texas, you sees stuff that ain’t there. Get off my case.