Well, the real victory was not necessarily over the Nazis, but in keeping the Soviets out of Western Europe. At that time, Stalin was going to win the war with or without the second front. It was just a question of where the Red Army was going to stop after beating Hitler.
In the WW II history thread with the newspapers one can read about many of FDR’s programs getting the ax, defunded, etc. Other researchers have shown that congress started opposing the New Deal policies before WW II and the Depression was easing before the war.
However, our success in WW II did help to solidify FDR as a great president in many people’s minds. My mom for one “FDR ended the Depression and won the War”. My old man (WWII vet - RIP)HATED FDR.
Was D-Day the beginning of a heroic crusade to “Free Europe”
The Western world could use a “crusade” today~~~this time it’s about the creeping spread of islam~
Simplistic. Sometimes war is waged as a racket of the ruling classes. Sometimes it is waged because it is necessary.
Stopping the Nazis was necessary. Some no doubt made a racket out of it. That didn't make it any less necessary.
D-Day was just another step in a huge global world. It was important but but seems that younger people sometimes think the war began and ended on D-Day. Maybe that’s because of the high profile movie a few years ago. Landing at Normandy was critical but it only got us on the continent. The big work of rolling the German army eastward had just begun.
Much of the dangerous settlement of our nation was done by Christian individualists. A point Miss Rand would have doubtless ignored.
Had the US not rescued Britain, saved France, and overthrown Fascism in Italy, millions more would have died in Europe, Germany would have likely developed its own atomic bomb, and the US would have been a sitting duck with no strong allies left. Russia would likely have been over-ran with India and China not far behind.
Lets face it, Adolph Hitler was the biggest contributer to Germany’s defeat. His fateful decision to stop the drive on Moscow and concentrate on those bogeymen behind his back in Kiev during August/September 1941 sealed Germany’s defeat. Up to that point if the drive on Moscow was continued instead of abandoned for several weeks, the Soviet Union’s defeat was a certainty. He should have had the Hungarians, Rumanians and Italians contain the trapped Soviet armies in the Ukraine and continued the drive on Moscow with the Wermacht, which was at the pinnacle of its success.
Yes, all the lend lease trucks mechanized the Soviet armored divisions staring in 1942. The Soviet mechanization would not have made up for German operational excellence except for Hitler’s repeated meddling in the East.
Lets face it, Adolph Hitler was the biggest contributer to Germany’s defeat. His fateful decision to stop the drive on Moscow and concentrate on those bogeymen behind his back in Kiev during August/September 1941 sealed Germany’s defeat. Up to that point if the drive on Moscow was continued instead of abandoned for several weeks, the Soviet Union’s defeat was a certainty. He should have had the Hungarians, Rumanians and Italians contain the trapped Soviet armies in the Ukraine and continued the drive on Moscow with the Wermacht, which was at the pinnacle of its success.
Yes, all the lend lease trucks mechanized the Soviet armored divisions staring in 1942. The Soviet mechanization would not have made up for German operational excellence except for Hitler’s repeated meddling in the East.
Lets face it, Adolph Hitler was the biggest contributer to Germany’s defeat. His fateful decision to stop the drive on Moscow and concentrate on those bogeymen behind his back in Kiev during August/September 1941 sealed Germany’s defeat. Up to that point if the drive on Moscow was continued instead of abandoned for several weeks, the Soviet Union’s defeat was a certainty. He should have had the Hungarians, Rumanians and Italians contain the trapped Soviet armies in the Ukraine and continued the drive on Moscow with the Wermacht, which was at the pinnacle of its success.
Yes, all the lend lease trucks mechanized the Soviet armored divisions staring in 1942. The Soviet mechanization would not have made up for German operational excellence except for Hitler’s repeated meddling in the East.
What investments overseas? Explain.
“anarcho-capitalist society”?
Beyond silly.
I know an 88yr old WIA ex-paratrooper I call “Dad” who
would still take a swing at somebody spouting that stuff
in his presence.
For the record although a draft was in place prior to US participa-
tion in the war once we joined in the draft was utilized to parse
volunteers into numbers that could be handled by the limited
number of training facilities at the time. In other words there
were more volunteers than training facilities could handle even
though new centers were added. Many were told to go home
and wait for a letter from “Uncle”.
This post is a confusion of WWII with a lot of other things.
I hope young men in the military do not get confused by reading claptrap such as this.
While there are large banks, Rockefellers, intellectual elites and big corporate interests, they each act with their own interests.
I wish people would stop brainwashing the military with false and exaggerated conspiracy theories; the truth is bad enough, and if one is believing a lie, it can get in the way of understanding the truth should one come across it.
Hitler was not a good guy, he was an idiot who was clever at manipulating for his own personal power gains and happened to be conducting his world-domination exercise with the benefit of being in a country where the norm was exceptionally good intelligence, hard work and devotion. If Hitler was the leader of a nation of people who did not have much on the ball, he would not have been the threat he was to the whole world. He was a threat to the whole world because a) he was nuts and b) he was in complete control of a nation with immense capabilities, which, of course, he put to the most corrupt use.
The real lesson to be learned from WWII is to stand up for what is morally right early and always, and stand up in the right way, and to try to uplift the morals of society instead of bringing them down. Immorality - which includes sloth and apathy as well as pride, covetousness, lust, greed, etc. (see the KJV Bible for a complete list) - is always a direct path to the downfall of a nation.
The citizens of a nation rightly can be drafted to come to the nation’s defense.
To think otherwise is to think the thoughts of one who is defeated and enslaved and tormented because they were too cowardly to fight to protect others. A nation of citizens who refuse to defend their own nation is a collection of people soon to be trod underfoot by a dominating power.
That being said, an unrighteous government, that is, one that seethes with corruption and immorality, forcing immoral behavior on it’s good citizens, will inevitably either attack other nations without a just cause, or, through it’s dealings with other nations or it’s own obvious weakness, unnecessarily invite an attack on it’s own people.
To use the WWII German example, there was at least a 5-year warning to German citizens that Hitler was leading their nation down the road to ruin. If the thousands of influential leaders in Germany were perhaps a bit more insightfully honest, and perhaps had a bit more courage, one could imagine that the ideology of Nazism could have been derailed prior to it’s own military actions earning the nation the wrath of war.
But that’s neither here nor there, as all things happen according to the Lord’s will, and we can’t undo history.
We certainly can, however, learn from history.
I can’t help but rhetorically wonder where on the timeline of ruin are we now ?
And more apropos to our own predicament, are we coming up with the plans to derail the ideology of communism, and all it’s false promises, within our own government ?
What about communism’s wicked stepsister, socialism, who comes to stay for a weekend and ends up impossible to remove, addicted, partying, pregnant and living on government assistance ? And all her friends, the rich crony capitalists that she parties with, the media that markets her ways and corrupts other people’s children, and the elitist educators who rationalize her wickedness ?
Are we spreading the good news of escape from the bondage of immorality, fear and sloth amongst all the current generation ?
Only if this generation hears the truth will any of them stop to consider it and perhaps believe.
That’s the only way a group with enough influence to reject the evil in the politics of our day can materialize.