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Conservatives Must Become a Third Force Independent of GOP
http://www.conservativehq.com ^ | 4/27/12 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 05/01/2012 6:37:33 PM PDT by Mozilla

Let’s be quite clear – there is a difference between Republicans and conservatives.

Republican Party politicians still can’t come to grips with the reality that the rebellion of the small government constitutional conservatives of the Tea Party is as much a rejection of their stewardship of the government – the earmarks and massive spending and debt of the Bush years – as it is a rejection of Obamacare and Obamanomics.

If 2012 is another big wave election, like 2010, but it sweeps into office the usual big-government, establishment Republicans, then we will have missed the opportunity of a lifetime, and lose the majority sooner rather than later.

Conservatives and Tea Partiers have no interest in exchanging business-as-usual government by Republican insiders for business-as-usual government by Democratic insiders – we want to see fundamental change in Washington and real action on the issues we care about.

Conservatives must go back to our conservative movement roots and focus on being a Third Force relentlessly advocating conservative, not necessarily Republican, governance.

The Left has thousands of Third Force groups: unions at the local, state and national level, race-based organizations, sex-based preference and advocacy groups, environmentalists, etc., etc. – each with their own members, their own sources of funds and leadership pushing a left-oriented agenda independent of the Democratic Party.

A Third Force doesn’t mean a Third Party...

However, conservatives can take a page from the Left’s playbook and do the same thing on small government constitutional conservative issues: fighting local tax referenda, opposing intrusive local land use regulations, and working to hold failing government schools accountable are just a few issues ripe for Third Force action.

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Becoming a Third Force means conservatives can finally rid themselves of the notion that a Republican victory in a given election will result in conservative government.

(Excerpt) Read more at conservativehq.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2012; conservative
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1 posted on 05/01/2012 6:37:37 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

So, what’s the definitive answer to how conservatives should vote in the race for ‘12 POTUS, during the November general election?


2 posted on 05/01/2012 6:42:28 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Vote Constitutional Party, of course, and re-elect Obama!


3 posted on 05/01/2012 6:45:17 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Mozilla
If 2012 is another big wave election, like 2010, but it sweeps into office the usual big-government, establishment Republicans, then we will have missed the opportunity of a lifetime, and lose the majority sooner rather than later.

If Romney wins conservatives live to fight another day. If 0bama wins....forget it. There will not be another day.
4 posted on 05/01/2012 6:46:00 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: Mozilla

Great idea! Then they can do what happened in MA in 2010 — reelect the rabidly Marxist governor even though Deval Patrick had only 37% approval before a third candidate ran that year.


5 posted on 05/01/2012 6:46:27 PM PDT by pabianice (ame with)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
The Left has thousands of Third Force groups: unions at the local, state and national level, race-based organizations, sex-based preference and advocacy groups, environmentalists, etc., etc. – each with their own members, their own sources of funds and leadership pushing a left-oriented agenda independent of the Democratic Party.

All these disparate groups, however, vote in lockstep with the dims.

6 posted on 05/01/2012 6:46:53 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: DLfromthedesert

8 years of rats or 16 of crats, freedom is still just as dead.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 6:47:35 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Mozilla

I’m a Conservative, and a registered Republican. However, the GOP has pretty much left me. I do not at all like Mitt Romney, I utterly despise John Boehner, and Mitch McConnell is pretty worthless. I know I am not alone.


8 posted on 05/01/2012 6:47:43 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Mozilla
Viguerie started massmarketing/fundraising, and has never done much else ever since. He was a ronpaulbot in 2008. An abortive third party run in 1976. Some serious money skimming from his fundraising operations.

Overall a guy who has no concrete solutions but who knows how to enrich himself at conservatives' expense. Don't hold you breath waiting for this guy to offer useful concrete advice.

9 posted on 05/01/2012 6:47:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The answer is to elect Romney and elect a “Romney proof” house and senate.

Elect the most small government people as possible, regardless of party, to the house and senate.

The house is especially important due to its spending role.
This is a fitting challenge for the tea party.


10 posted on 05/01/2012 7:01:49 PM PDT by Tripoli
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To: hinckley buzzard

The answer is to elect Romney and elect a “Romney proof” house and senate.

Elect the most small government people as possible, regardless of party, to the house and senate.

The house is especially important due to its spending role.
This is a fitting challenge for the tea party.


11 posted on 05/01/2012 7:02:04 PM PDT by Tripoli
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To: GreyMountainReagan

“If Romney wins conservatives live to fight another day. If 0bama wins....forget it. There will not be another day.”

I would argue that Romney will do more damage to conservatism if he wins in following ways:

1) He will stack the RNC leadership positions with his people. That means his supporters who defend govt mandates, socialized healthcare, restrictive gun control, gay marriage, global warming, diversity etc. Take a look at his judicial and other political appointments.

2) Every liberal position he takes....more socialized healthcare, intrusive govt, gun control will be labeled by the MSM as “ conservative” positions. This will ultimately push the debate even further to the left.

In my opinion, there has been no greater force for the resurgence of conservative ideals and principles than the last four years of Obama. He inadvertently created the Tea Party and stoked the fires of conservatism to new levels. (He’s also been pretty good for gun sales.) I’m not so sure that four more years won’t further strengthen the resolve of conservatives. (One thing the Romney nomination has taught me is that the GOP hasn’t learned their lesson yet.)

As powerful as the Presidency is, I’m 100% certain that there nothing Obama can do to kill the conservative movement. I can’t say the same thing about Romney.


12 posted on 05/01/2012 7:04:47 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

When the house is burning, it’s time to leave. Trying to save a frame that is already burning is too late. Time to build a new house.


13 posted on 05/01/2012 7:22:16 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

“So, what’s the definitive answer to how conservatives should vote in the race for ‘12 POTUS, during the November general election?”

For me it is voting third party against the republicans and democrats. BUT that is my decision. I am against Obama and Romney equally.n I get why some people will commit to voting for romney to get Obama out. But I feel more like protesting both parties.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 7:51:00 PM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

2006 : (NICARAGUA : NON-SANDINISTA VOTERS, DIVIDING THE VOTES BETWEEN THE CHOICE OF JOSE RIZO OR EDUARDO MONTEALEGRE, ALLOW SANDINISTA COMMUNIST DANIEL ORTEGA TO GRAB THE PRESIDENCY IN THREE-PARTY RACE WITH JUST 38% OF THE POPULAR VOTE) -——— Losing Nicaragua-The Sandinistas are slowly crushing democracy., Weekly Standard, 11/24/2009 BY Jaime Daremblum


15 posted on 05/01/2012 8:05:58 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Time to build a new house.

You really think there will be any 'building' after 4 years of 0bama AND the dem senate and house...then maybe, maybe a conservative in '16???

Conservatives need to live to fight another day. Washington retreated and retreated when required. With the country at risk with 0bama we CAN NOT risk another 4 years with him.

If I had my way, Romney would be on the democrat ticket and a true conservative on the Republican ticket but it is what it is.
16 posted on 05/01/2012 8:06:09 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: Mozilla

If you don’t have enough votes to take over the GOP you don’t have enough to win.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 8:10:30 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Romney has no shot, even if every Freeper voted for him.


18 posted on 05/01/2012 8:11:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Mozilla

I think our plan for the future is to destroy the gop-e and make them go third party or retire.

The conservatives should be serving notice to the elites with this election that they are gonna get kicked out one way or another!


19 posted on 05/01/2012 8:17:15 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worst Rinos ever!)
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To: piasa
Here's how that three party fumble in that country is playing out so far...

MAY 2009 : (NICARAGUA : ONE LIBERAL-APPOINTED JUDGE DIES, GIVING COMMUNIST SANDINISTAS AN 8-7 MAJORITY IN NICARAGUA'S SUPREME COURT )

OCTOBER 19, 2009 : (NICARAGUA : [A SANDINISTA-STACKED] SUPREME COURT OVERTURNS CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION LIMITING PRESIDENTS TO TWO TERMS, THUS ALLOWING DANIEL ORTEGA TO RUN FOR YET ANOTHER TERM IN 2011)

20 posted on 05/01/2012 8:20:14 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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