Posted on 05/01/2012 6:37:33 PM PDT by Mozilla
Lets be quite clear there is a difference between Republicans and conservatives.
Republican Party politicians still cant come to grips with the reality that the rebellion of the small government constitutional conservatives of the Tea Party is as much a rejection of their stewardship of the government the earmarks and massive spending and debt of the Bush years as it is a rejection of Obamacare and Obamanomics.
If 2012 is another big wave election, like 2010, but it sweeps into office the usual big-government, establishment Republicans, then we will have missed the opportunity of a lifetime, and lose the majority sooner rather than later.
Conservatives and Tea Partiers have no interest in exchanging business-as-usual government by Republican insiders for business-as-usual government by Democratic insiders we want to see fundamental change in Washington and real action on the issues we care about.
Conservatives must go back to our conservative movement roots and focus on being a Third Force relentlessly advocating conservative, not necessarily Republican, governance.
The Left has thousands of Third Force groups: unions at the local, state and national level, race-based organizations, sex-based preference and advocacy groups, environmentalists, etc., etc. each with their own members, their own sources of funds and leadership pushing a left-oriented agenda independent of the Democratic Party.
A Third Force doesnt mean a Third Party...
However, conservatives can take a page from the Lefts playbook and do the same thing on small government constitutional conservative issues: fighting local tax referenda, opposing intrusive local land use regulations, and working to hold failing government schools accountable are just a few issues ripe for Third Force action.
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Becoming a Third Force means conservatives can finally rid themselves of the notion that a Republican victory in a given election will result in conservative government.
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So, what’s the definitive answer to how conservatives should vote in the race for ‘12 POTUS, during the November general election?
Vote Constitutional Party, of course, and re-elect Obama!
Great idea! Then they can do what happened in MA in 2010 — reelect the rabidly Marxist governor even though Deval Patrick had only 37% approval before a third candidate ran that year.
All these disparate groups, however, vote in lockstep with the dims.
8 years of rats or 16 of crats, freedom is still just as dead.
I’m a Conservative, and a registered Republican. However, the GOP has pretty much left me. I do not at all like Mitt Romney, I utterly despise John Boehner, and Mitch McConnell is pretty worthless. I know I am not alone.
Overall a guy who has no concrete solutions but who knows how to enrich himself at conservatives' expense. Don't hold you breath waiting for this guy to offer useful concrete advice.
The answer is to elect Romney and elect a “Romney proof” house and senate.
Elect the most small government people as possible, regardless of party, to the house and senate.
The house is especially important due to its spending role.
This is a fitting challenge for the tea party.
The answer is to elect Romney and elect a “Romney proof” house and senate.
Elect the most small government people as possible, regardless of party, to the house and senate.
The house is especially important due to its spending role.
This is a fitting challenge for the tea party.
“If Romney wins conservatives live to fight another day. If 0bama wins....forget it. There will not be another day.”
I would argue that Romney will do more damage to conservatism if he wins in following ways:
1) He will stack the RNC leadership positions with his people. That means his supporters who defend govt mandates, socialized healthcare, restrictive gun control, gay marriage, global warming, diversity etc. Take a look at his judicial and other political appointments.
2) Every liberal position he takes....more socialized healthcare, intrusive govt, gun control will be labeled by the MSM as “ conservative” positions. This will ultimately push the debate even further to the left.
In my opinion, there has been no greater force for the resurgence of conservative ideals and principles than the last four years of Obama. He inadvertently created the Tea Party and stoked the fires of conservatism to new levels. (He’s also been pretty good for gun sales.) I’m not so sure that four more years won’t further strengthen the resolve of conservatives. (One thing the Romney nomination has taught me is that the GOP hasn’t learned their lesson yet.)
As powerful as the Presidency is, I’m 100% certain that there nothing Obama can do to kill the conservative movement. I can’t say the same thing about Romney.
When the house is burning, it’s time to leave. Trying to save a frame that is already burning is too late. Time to build a new house.
“So, whats the definitive answer to how conservatives should vote in the race for 12 POTUS, during the November general election?”
For me it is voting third party against the republicans and democrats. BUT that is my decision. I am against Obama and Romney equally.n I get why some people will commit to voting for romney to get Obama out. But I feel more like protesting both parties.
2006 : (NICARAGUA : NON-SANDINISTA VOTERS, DIVIDING THE VOTES BETWEEN THE CHOICE OF JOSE RIZO OR EDUARDO MONTEALEGRE, ALLOW SANDINISTA COMMUNIST DANIEL ORTEGA TO GRAB THE PRESIDENCY IN THREE-PARTY RACE WITH JUST 38% OF THE POPULAR VOTE) -——— Losing Nicaragua-The Sandinistas are slowly crushing democracy., Weekly Standard, 11/24/2009 BY Jaime Daremblum
If you don’t have enough votes to take over the GOP you don’t have enough to win.
Romney has no shot, even if every Freeper voted for him.
I think our plan for the future is to destroy the gop-e and make them go third party or retire.
The conservatives should be serving notice to the elites with this election that they are gonna get kicked out one way or another!
MAY 2009 : (NICARAGUA : ONE LIBERAL-APPOINTED JUDGE DIES, GIVING COMMUNIST SANDINISTAS AN 8-7 MAJORITY IN NICARAGUA'S SUPREME COURT )
OCTOBER 19, 2009 : (NICARAGUA : [A SANDINISTA-STACKED] SUPREME COURT OVERTURNS CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION LIMITING PRESIDENTS TO TWO TERMS, THUS ALLOWING DANIEL ORTEGA TO RUN FOR YET ANOTHER TERM IN 2011)
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