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1 posted on 04/22/2012 10:10:36 AM PDT by relictele
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To: relictele

I see them frequently when watching the west coast satellite feed that carries Dodgers games.

they are revolting, manipulative, and cheap. I flip the channel for 30 seconds.

I don’t see them locally much. maybe the HHS doesn’t give a damn about red states. heh.


2 posted on 04/22/2012 10:15:52 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: relictele

So much of what the government does is just manipulation, or — “social engineering” as they say nowadays.

Tax policy? Social Engineering.
Government Schools? Social Engineering.
Obamacare? Social Engineering.

Anti-smoking ads? Social Engineering.

You either want the government to manipulate people, or you don’t. If you can find an example of “good” social engineering, then you are accepting the concept that government ought to manipulate people. I do not accept that concept.


3 posted on 04/22/2012 10:18:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: relictele

At what point to they admit these ads don’t work? They’ve been going on forever and people still smoke.


4 posted on 04/22/2012 10:22:47 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: relictele

When’s the HHS video depicting AIDS patient’s shriveled bodies resulting from homosexual anal sex coming out?


5 posted on 04/22/2012 10:23:53 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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‘’We need to raise those taxes on tobacco, as the cost of educating and helping those who smoke is increasing. With higher taxes, we price the children out of the market, and make it that much harder for those who are not yet addicted to become part of the problem. And we need to raise taxes as we just don't have enough money to fully promote the programs required to eliminate smoking.’’

Where do taxes on cigarettes actually go? To government employees, subsidies for liberal causes, and payola for those who contribute to liberal campaigns. Go ahead, have your local church apply for a grant to help people quit smoking. You'll be denied. Create a group called Conservatives Against Smoking, and apply for a grant - you'll be denied.

Now create a grant for ‘Family Planning of Greater (whereever)’ and apply, and you'll win the grant. Or ‘Homeless Advocates of (any big city)’, and you'll win that grant.

Cigarette taxes are just another way of funding the liberal machine. Those funds go to groups who have no connection to anti-smoking programs, and they provide anti-smoking materials that have little chance of actually working - but come from companies that contribute to liberal causes.

Your grant will come with cash for someone to run the program, money to distribute the materials for the program, and free drug samples to hand to people. And to provide proof that you're actually doing something with this money, you only need take a shot of a display in the corner of an office — that the public never sees.

And once they've mined this for as much gold as they can possibly squeeze, they'll move on to the next demon, as they still have a liberal machine to feed. More abortions to fund. More embezzling of taxpayer funds.

6 posted on 04/22/2012 10:24:33 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: relictele
Ahh, the good old days, Remember the Flintstones?/
8 posted on 04/22/2012 10:36:13 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: relictele

These Ads are a public service for themselves (government)

According to the CDC there are @ 45Million smokers in the US. If you figure a pack a day for each smoker....that comes to $16,589,350,000(Billion) just in federal taxes of $1.01/pk.

The federal tax pays for the SCHIP program.

The average of all state taxes settles to around $1.46/pack, this figure generates $23,980,500,00(Billion) as an average - some states tax more - others less.

So, in essence, there’s around $40 Billion dollars per year being generated by cigarette taxation of users that goes to the government.

When these taxes started ramping up - and the MSA (Master Settlement Agreement) kicked in, these taxes were all said to go to help the smoker quit and help with medical expenses...it never did. The only thing that’s left is the cursory annoying ads that say smoking is bad~ but taxes are good.

Government Coffers need more revenue; as smokers quit - those taxes quit. They’ll need to shift to other societal tags, whether glowball warming or obesity,etc. - the products of the nation needs to be taxed - and heavily....there’s oodles of spending to do - someone has to pay for it....who can “we” shame taxes out of next?

Watch those “Public Service Announcement” ads - watch the news stories...there’s a new tax piggy-bank on the horizon. There has to be - or Big Government Fails.

This isn’t about smoking ~ Never was.


12 posted on 04/22/2012 10:45:40 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: relictele

“As someone once said, the Bill of Rights should be amended to include The Right To Be Left The Hell Alone.”

Obviously, that was said by a very wise person.

But today, the government and secular media powers and manipulators force their agenda on the population not unlike a loud spouting Communist propaganda at a Khmer Rouge prison work camp.

We are bombarded with anti-smoking ads, as well as Non-Christian dogma and by those who support the alleged rights to promote and practice homosexuality.

Yes, we not a Constitutional Amendment grant us the right to be left alone and not have the government dictate how we run our lives.


14 posted on 04/22/2012 10:56:09 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: relictele

It didn’t stop the guy in the ad after he started losing limbs to the rare Buerger’s disease. (Which BTW you can get even if you don’t smoke.) What effect is his ad going to have on people who chose to smoke?

http://www.valleynewslive.com/story/17518103/west-fargo-double-amputee-in-nationwide-smoking-campaign


15 posted on 04/22/2012 11:05:26 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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I thought the most effective anti-smoking commercials were the ones from about 40 years ago, done by Hollywood stars who were smokers and knew they were in a serious battle with lung cancer. The ones by John Wayne, Yul Brynner, and William Talman (DA Hamilton Burger from “Perry Mason”) really got my attention.

I believe the Yul Brynner and William Talman ads were filmed when they were terminally ill, and broadcast soon after their deaths.


16 posted on 04/22/2012 11:33:41 AM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: relictele

Central authority manipulation,no word from them how being a homosexual unhealthy.Note post five.


17 posted on 04/22/2012 11:35:28 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: relictele

There is nothing positive about cigarette smoking. Nothing. Anything, including these commercials, that can persuade young people to never start or smokers to quit is a good thing. When I think of all the things government wastes money on, this is not one of them.


23 posted on 04/22/2012 12:37:34 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: relictele

Sorry, I haven’t watched commercial television in years and as a result I just never see ads. They’re a form of mental assault. Once you “quit the habit” you’ll never want to go back.


28 posted on 04/22/2012 1:40:14 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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