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The Ugliness That Awaits George Zimmerman’s Trial (Case study in histrionic agitation)
News One For Black America ^ | April 13, 2012 | Michael Arceneaux

Posted on 04/13/2012 2:14:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: MsLady

By the way, this sort of thing reminds me of the way people were misled during the Casey Anthony trial. The kid was dead, someone must have killed her, and since the mother didn’t report her missing for a month, or whatever, it must have been her. Case closed. Except that’s not how the legal system works. You need to actually prove it was her, and that it was first degree murder or whatever else she was charged with, not just that it probably couldn’t have been anyone else, and that not reporting her missing should be a crime, even if it isn’t.

Now, there was some evidence: a smell emanating from the car, a sticker (or something, I forget) on the corpse, some internet searches, etc. But none of it amounted to a conviction, despite the public at large’s overwhelming instincts. The defense lawyer argued, smartly, that it could have been an accidental death covered up by the grandfather. He was right, it could have been. Because the prosecution could not prove its case. And though most likely the mother was guilty of something, we don’t know what.

Likewise, your feelings about Martin possible excuse for instigating violence and the other guy’s gut instinct that Zimmerman is a nut are what they are. But they are not evidence, nor legal reasoning. They are gossip, basically. Thank God we have due process, because you need actual evidence that Zimmerman instigated violence and that he was a law-and-order madman bent on killing the next hooded teen of a minority race he saw in order to lock him away.


41 posted on 04/13/2012 3:20:52 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: yooper
No such thing as a "911 directive". Do you actually think you live in a country where the "commands" of a telephone operator have any weight in law?

Also, he actually did follow the "911 directive". He went back to his van when Tray attacked him.

42 posted on 04/13/2012 3:22:09 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: MsLady

“It’s well and fine to question whether Martin was provoked beyond Zimmerman”

Beyond Zimmerman following him, I mean.


43 posted on 04/13/2012 3:24:26 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: yooper
If TM had not died, would you still feel the same way?
I know you're still lurking....
44 posted on 04/13/2012 3:25:21 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'd like to propose something radical. Let's wait and see what facts come out in the trial and make a decision at that point.
45 posted on 04/13/2012 3:31:48 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Is it too late to save the country?)
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To: yooper

Wow yooper, keep drinking the LSM kool-aid.


46 posted on 04/13/2012 3:34:30 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: Tublecane
How dare you inject reason, logic, knowledge of jurisprudence, and a calm demeanor into this sort of thread! Watchit Bub! I got my eye on you. Why I oughta....

Hey. Have tyou read the Sanford City Manager's Report? You oughta. He's one of youse calm logical people what is swayed by mere facts.

47 posted on 04/13/2012 3:40:24 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The online poll also revealed that 59 percent of Hispanics believed Martin was wrongly shot by Zimmerman.

Apparently, Photoshop works !


48 posted on 04/13/2012 3:45:31 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Sir_Humphrey
Let's wait and see what facts come out in the trial and make a decision at that point.

Jeez, Hump, let's not take all the fun out of it! If we promise to stay calm now, is it OK if we riot right after the verdict?

49 posted on 04/13/2012 3:50:17 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: yooper
"Zimmerman ignored a 911 directive...."

He was told to "just let us know if he does anything else", no wonder he started to follow.

50 posted on 04/13/2012 3:58:55 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kenny Bunk

I thought they took them all down.


51 posted on 04/13/2012 4:03:29 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kenny Bunk

I’m thinking I might want to riot.
Since George is half-white, if he’s railroaded I might want to do some sort of `No Justice, No Peace’ thing, but I’ve never participated in a riot.
Is there a list of rules or a protocol to follow? Someone should be in charge of sending out riot invitations you would think.
Can we all meet at Sears? There are a lot of nice tools and power equipment I might like to have, but cannot afford.
So, do we just sort of mill about, grumbling, shaking our fists and shuffle our feet. March back and forth? Maybe shout some stuff/chant some slogans?
Who starts things off—just any old hothead? What do we do first—Throw a trashcan through plate glass?
What if something comes up and I can’t make it? Do I RSVP?
Just sayin’


52 posted on 04/13/2012 4:05:37 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: yooper
Dude’s toast. Look, I’m a Conservative and I own several dozen guns. And I’m a Yooper. Zimmerman ignored a 911 directive to not pursue, he did not “Stand His Ground” because he pursued and fired, and he just gives me an impression that he is an overzealous idiot. I’m also white and open minded. I’d vote to convict this a-hole in a heart beat.

Holy crap - you've been around for a while and managed to remain an idiot. 911 can only suggest - their away-from-the-scene suggestions carry no legal weight. if you followed the news with that "open mind" (more like a hole in the head), you would know that Zimmerman never closed with Martin and actually lost sight of him. He was, in fact, retreating when Martin accosted him.

It's not complicated unless your theme song is "If I Only Had A Brain"...

53 posted on 04/13/2012 4:16:25 PM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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54 posted on 04/13/2012 4:30:30 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: yooper
Zimmerman ignored a 911 directive to not pursue.

The 911 operator said "You don't need to do that." That is not a directive not to pursue, and if the prosecution tries to characterize it as such, the defense and the judge will laugh it out of court.

And you'd vote to convict the "a-hole" before hearing any of the evidence other than what you've been fed by the MSM, eh, yooper? I question the color of your judgment.

55 posted on 04/13/2012 4:35:38 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: tumblindice
Please don't bother me.

As soon as the riots start, I am planning to take a Snap-On Tool Truck and must keep my plans top-secret.

But I can help you. Have you bought a Hoodie yet? Had all your teeth redone in gold? Are you listening to RAP music 24/7? what about your tattoos? The $250 basketball shoes? Had any illegitimate children? Gotten your Food stamp card?

Check in when you have completed these preliminaries .... and work on the tan big time, OK? If you do not understand ... I mean are not jiggy wit my instructions ./.. do a dime bag of crack and get back to me.

56 posted on 04/13/2012 4:37:40 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: trebb; yooper
Yooper, swear to me that you have read the City Manager of Sanford's Report, then we can speak. Right now, you are arguing ab ano.

Trebb, lay offa the guy until he completes the homework

57 posted on 04/13/2012 4:42:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Opinions of self-appointed "black" experts are of little relevance to me.
58 posted on 04/13/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: yooper
Don't be so "open minded" your brain falls out. Read the Police Chief on that so-called "911(sic) directive."

Then try to keep up.

59 posted on 04/13/2012 4:50:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: yooper

Did you EVER listen to the 911 tape while it was up? You should have.


60 posted on 04/13/2012 4:51:56 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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