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To: Wizdum
What it will boil down to is whether Zimmerman was perceived by Martin as an aggressor and attacked, or Martin decided to attack unprovoked. I think more of the first rather than the second.

I think it's more likely to be the second than the first but don't have enough info to be sure.In order to decide for sure (or "beyond a reasonable doubt") I'd want to know much,*much* more about *both* individuals.If,by chance,one of them has a "clean" past and the other one a "dirty" one then,IMO,it's most likely the one with the "dirty" one who's at fault.I've heard *nothing*,good *or* bad,about Zimmerman's past.I've heard a bit about the kid's past and,if everything is true and accurate (Twitter posts,school suspensions for example) it paints a picture of a gangsta thug in the making.But I can't be sure if *any* of it is true.

And BTW...it only matters if the kid *had good reason* to see Zimmerman as a threat.I think we all know that there are *millions* of kids in this country that see "threats" where none actually exist.Just listen to all those rap songs about the joys of bustin' a cap in some white pig cop.

87 posted on 04/12/2012 8:59:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

[[I think it’s more likely to be the second than the first but don’t have enough info to be sure.]]

By law, it should be the second- it doesn’t mastter IF martin saw zimmerman as ‘an aggressor’ Martin STILL HAD NO RIGHT TO CRIMINALLY ASSAULT Zimmerman- what the hell do peopel NOT understand about This?

[[it only matters if the kid *had good reason* to see Zimmerman as a threat]]

Beign followed is NOT ‘good reason’ to see soemoen as a risk and is NEVER justification for criminally assaulting that person- period! Trayvon commited a criminal act on Geoge- George did NOT commit ANY crimes i nthis case

Again- Martin did NOT hasve4 the right to assault and attempt to murder George Zimmerman, and Zimmerman had EVERY RIGHT to defend hismelf with deadly force when it became evident martin was terying to kill him- ANY TIME someone takes your head and bashes it agaisnt a solid object, you can reasonably assume that person intends to murder you and you have EVERY RUIGHT to protect yourself with deadly force

Martin thoguth he was a tough guy, decided agaisnt his girlfrioend’s wishes to confront george zimmerman, and made a VERY SERIOUS mkistake and paid for it with hisw life-

Again to those hwo think martin might have ‘seen zimmerman as threat’ Being followed is NEVER a reason to criminally assault someone especially with intent to murder- there is nothign more to discuss abotu that fact- Martin attacked zimerman with depraved indifference to zimmetrmans’s safety and well being- Martin apaprently made it very clear his intent to murder zimmerman- Zimmerman NEVER issued any such kind of threat toward Trayvon- Never!

IF someoen has evidence showing trayvon infact perceived zimmerman as a threat- and can show why he had reason to, present it- but hte facts of the case and witnesses and actiosn of trayvon show that htis is not the case


100 posted on 04/12/2012 10:47:34 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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