[DiogenesLamp]

Something people need to absorb: Obama is using a stolen BC# - almost certainly Virginia Sunahara’s, since her birth and death situation (including a misreported name on the death certificate) is a very, very rare combination in which there could be a legitimate discrepancy between the “date filed” and the out-of-sequence BC#. There would be no need for him to do that if he had a HI BC that originated in 1961 - regardless of how many adoptions he went through. An adoption would not require the HDOH to give Obama the BC# of Virginia Sunahara.

I have heard this repeatedly alleged. Do we now have proof that this is true? (That Obama's birth certificate number is the same as Virginia Sunahara.)

[butterdezillion]

The only direct proof of that would be either the computer logs, security microfilm roll with the BC’s in question, or a genuine, original 1961 birth certificate for Virginia Sunahara.

Inspection of the latter by a close relative of the registrant is a required disclosure according to Hawaii’s UIPA, but Hawaii is refusing to obey those laws.

Which is strong circumstantial evidence that there is foul play and that the HDOH itself is willing to break laws to cover up the foul play.

The indirect evidence that the BC# and “date filed” combination on Obama’s forged BC would require the unusual circumstances that Virginia had includes the HDOH’s own disclosure that the BC#’s were routinely given by the HDOH on the “date filed” for Oahu births, and the long-form BC information (”date filed” and BC#’s) for the Nordyke twins.