the form starts off with Stanley)Ann D.....and to that is added (.......unham Obama
So it takes two layers to achieve the name of the 'mother'?
Looks to me like the mother's maiden name was Ann D something - it certainly wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham.
PING to post 21.
I agree that what you have posited may be true, BUT the nature of the documents made public is that they have been digitally manipulated as evidenced by identical pixilation on various portions of the documents, something that no State Government would do, because their respective birth registries are not engaged in propaganda, or in the utterance of false documents in order to commit fraud against Article II of the Constitition.
Why not show us the original reissued adoptive documents?
Its really so simple.
In any case the public docuuments as they are now, indeed are forgeries as Arapio has reported,, but hardly what you might call reissued adoptive state documents.
The current forgeries are nothing more than propaganda documents,characteristic of a nationalist socialist regime, acting according to its own “law”, not that of the people.
Have a read:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
You are correct that no state government would do such a things for the reasons you stated above, but you are overlooking the most likely reason for doing such a thing. Because it is easy and convenient. Nowadays, copy and paste is pretty much the way you would manipulate any redundant text or image file.
Why not show us the original reissued adoptive documents? Its really so simple.
It is ILLEGAL for government officials to disclose adoption information, and it is INCONVENIENT for Barack Obama to do so.
In any case the public docuuments as they are now, indeed are forgeries as Arapio has reported,, but hardly what you might call reissued adoptive state documents.
They aren't "reissued" they are created from bits and pieces of other documents. Barack's lawyers could have petitioned the court to unseal his original birth document, but it was more useful to him to simply have a replacement one issued that supports his narrative. We aren't seeing his ORIGINAL birth document, we are seeing a REPLACEMENT with some of the same information which is on his original birth document.
Again, I repeat that his original birth record is probably going to be an affidavit of "at home birth". It WILL NOT look like a birth certificate, and therefore will call into question whether or not he was really born in Hawaii.
The current forgeries are nothing more than propaganda documents,characteristic of a nationalist socialist regime, acting according to its own “law”, not that of the people.
Yes they are, but they may have also been created legally by the State of Hawaii.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
Kyle-Anne Shiver writes good articles.
I understand what you are trying to get at with the adoption scenario but this “legal” forgery idea really doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
You are trying to make the argument that the state can issue a type of abstract document that would replicate the information on the original birth certificate. Possibly they can but I highly doubt that their laws, statues, protocols would allow them to create a digital image that was NEVER in paper form and to create this digital document they had to cut and paste information from other documents.
If is was NEVER an original paper document it had to have been made up of digitally scanned parts of other documents. Some parts created, some added, some imported. A Frankenstein abstract.
For example:
Are you saying the state has a right to take Verna Lee or the doctor’s signature off somebody else’s birth certificate and use it for an abstract document for Obama? That’s fraud. You can’t take someone’s signature off a different document and place it on an abstract even if they signed the original birth certificate (which I highly doubt).
the form starts off with Stanley)Ann D.....and to that is added (.......unham Obama
So it takes two layers to achieve the name of the 'mother'?
Looks to me like the mother's maiden name was Ann D something - it certainly wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham.