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To: butterdezillion
My take:
The article/table states no US citizen debarked or left the US by air for Kenya june 61-july 62 (60 USC’s left by ship). It also shows 7 citizens left the US for Kenya in 60-June 30 1961 time period, which would allow for a departure from the US for Stanley Ann in June 1961.

Table shows only one arrival from Kenya of 1 alien and no US citizens 61-62 by air and 13 aliens 7 citizens by ship in 61-62 and which means Stanley Ann would have to have returned by ship, or over Canada land border (or Mexico)

I realize of course these types of records may not be perfect, but as I see it his information does not give credence to an entry by air for Stanley Ann & Obie Jr from KENYA. It allows for the possibility of Acquired citizenship at birth but shows no room for ann to have accompanies Obie by air in return to US. It also discounts naturalization of Obie by 1962 from Kenya, of course he could have natualized from Kenya after June 30, 1962 which is as far as the table goes....

you can blow up the tables/article here:

http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim1962unit#page/74/mode/1up

257 posted on 03/24/2012 5:28:46 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

Thanks. The part I really hate about all this is that at this point we have no idea what government records are genuine and which aren’t. The Passport Office claims to have destroyed passport applications for the years that include SAD’s first passport, but applications that should supposedly have been destroyed have actually been disclosed, so something’s not right. And the required paper trail for the retention schedule change authorizing the destruction is “missing”; all that exists, instead, is a DOS “cable” that could easily have been forged.

It’s mighty convenient that the actual records which would show the accuracy or inaccuracy of these recently-discovered tables are “missing”. Of course, Eric Holder was trying to change the rules so agencies could claim that records don’t exist when they actually do, so...

I’d love to hear the story of how this resource was discovered. One of the publicly-stated disinformation methods of Cass Sunstein (Obama’s close confidante) is to farm out false information to people who either pose as allies of a particular cause or who actually are allies. That way the disinformation comes out as if it was credible. That’s how everything with the newspaper birth announcements happened - documentably. It appears to be how the Waidelich and Ah Nee BC’s came out. There’s a bunch more about this technique that I’m not gonna say at this point, but if the Waidelich, Ah Nee, and Sunahara BC’s are any indication, the Obama people have no qualms about falsifying government records wholesale.

If this is a genuine, non-manipulated record and what these records say is correct there would be no reason for the INS microfilms at NARA to be missing for just Aug 1-7, 1961, and the records we’d need to look at would be boat records into the US, flights from Kenya to Canada, or birth records in Canada. It would also be helpful to know exactly when SAD was actually physically in Seattle attending classes, to find out whether an arrival by boat is possible.


264 posted on 03/24/2012 6:01:13 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: rolling_stone

What if SADO was traveling on a British passport?


265 posted on 03/24/2012 6:15:06 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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