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1 posted on 03/13/2012 9:55:44 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Bump for later.

/johnny

2 posted on 03/13/2012 10:03:23 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Here is a rebuttal to you. This is the NORMAL progression of drugs when they are not interdicted.

Chests of Opium Imported to China.

3 posted on 03/13/2012 10:06:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Good list.

Drug War bootlickers (a.k.a. closet socialists) arriving to spam this thread with ad homenim attacks in 3-2-1 ...

4 posted on 03/13/2012 10:11:35 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
From your link:

Many soldiers on both sides of the Civil War who were given morphine for their wounds became addicted to it, and this increased level of addiction continued throughout the nineteenth century and into the twentieth. In 1880, many drugs, including opium and cocaine, were legal — and, like some drugs today, seen as benign medicine not requiring a doctor’s care and oversight. Addiction skyrocketed. There were over 400,000 opium addicts in the U.S. That is twice as many per capita as there are today.

By 1900, about one American in 200 was either a cocaine or opium addict.

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So we had 400,000 opium addicts in 1880, many of whom were addicted Civil War veterans. The population of the US in 1880 was around 50M. That works out to an addiction rate of 0.8% in 1880. Now, in 1900 the addiction rate to either opium or cocaine was 1 in 200. That is an addiction rate of 0.5%.

So in 1880 there were 0.8% addicted to just opium vs 0.5% to either opium or cocaine in 1900. The DEA is telling us that addiction declined substantially between 1880 and 1900, despite these drugs being legal.

6 posted on 03/13/2012 10:30:07 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
One fact strangely NOT mentioned:

Ask your nearest middle school student what drugs they have seen or heard of being used in their school.

Then ask them how hard it is to get their hands on beer.

One is illegal and has nearly a trillion dollars a year spent to prevent its use, one is for sale on nearly every street corner.

Game, set, and match.

7 posted on 03/13/2012 10:35:34 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Every state has drug laws already on their books, and if all the federal drug laws were gone tomorrow, those state laws would still be in place and enforceable.

ENDING THE FEDERAL DRUG WAR WILL NOT LEGALIZE DRUGS.

But they work really hard at trying to make you believe it would.

11 posted on 03/13/2012 10:53:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
America needs more unfettered access to a wider array of poisons.

This will assuredly make America a better place.....

Once legalized it will be much easier for parents to convince their kids of the destructive effects of drug use.

And the kids, ever mindful of parental warnings, will heed their advice....

Why....didn't you see John Stossle’s citation of the success in Portugal?
Never mind that he avoided citing the failures in the Netherlands and Sweden.....

13 posted on 03/13/2012 11:23:23 AM PDT by G Larry (spellcheck can ruin a good rant!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Frankly I would not trust anything the DEA has to say. This is the same DEA that confiscates property without filing charges. America has the highest proportion of its population in prison, over 50% are from drug related crimes. That is insane. When our “betters” tried to regulate drug (alcohol) use in the 1920s we had a name for them - progressives.
14 posted on 03/13/2012 11:25:13 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Some more ammo for you from the NIH:

The number of eighth graders who reported trying illegal drugs increased from 2009 to 2010, according to data released by the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

But other statistics contained in the report "America's Children: Key National Indicators of Well-Being 2011" are much more promising: The number of 12th graders who reported binge drinking decreased, as did the number of teens who gave birth.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/eighth-graders-illegal-drugs-teen-births-drop/story?id=14028428

16 posted on 03/13/2012 12:05:04 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
The whole WOsD is a farce.

There is no such thing as an illegal drug. There are only controlled substances.

The drugs themselves are not illegal. What one does with those drugs is what is illegal.

Once the government legislates what you can't put into your body
they will then start to legislate what you must put into your body.

I'm an adult, not a child! I neither need, nor want, the government telling me what to do in every aspect of my life.
That's why there is a Ninth Amendment to the Constitution.

I look forward to any replies.

22 posted on 03/13/2012 3:55:08 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
What this completely misses is that under Art 1, Sec 8 of the United States Constitution, supreme law of the land.... congress assembled has no authority granted to regulate drugs.

That's up to the states or the people.

/johnny

27 posted on 03/13/2012 4:08:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

The DEA is against legalization because the DEA wants to keep their jobs.


54 posted on 03/14/2012 9:31:01 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
You give politicians, bureaucrats and institutions power and a money channel, they will lie to expand their power and increase the flow of money.

Don't believe a word they say.

Reefer Madness wasn't an aberration, it was a model.

98 posted on 03/20/2012 5:37:54 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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Claim 2 rebutted here.
101 posted on 03/22/2012 12:55:38 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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