Catholic Church: We need comprehensive immigration reform, not 'Secure Communities' program

The recent article about the expansion into Baltimore of the Department of Homeland Security's program to crackdown on illegal immigrants ("Immigrants, city fear divide over status checks," Feb. 26) makes clear the need for real immigration reform. Programs such as Secure Communities, regardless of aim, are succeeding in spreading fear and division and in threatening the stability of the family. Moreover, the program is altering the relationship between federal immigration enforcement and local law enforcement.

The Catholic Church's concern for the welfare of migrants stems from its belief that immigration is ultimately a humanitarian issue because it impacts the basic human rights and dignity of the human person. The Church believes this dignity is undermined by this program's alleged channeling of immigrants into the criminal justice system through racial profiling and pre-textual arrests for the purpose of vetting them for their immigration status. Because Secure Communities is operated at the point of arrest, rather than post-conviction, it casts a wide net over virtually any immigrant who has come into contact with the criminal justice system.

In other parts of the country where Secure Communities is being operated, some law enforcement officers have denounced the program because it creates a lack of trust between immigrant communities and local police, affecting their ability to investigate crime, assist crime victims and ensure the safety of those communities

I believe that John Paul II addressed this question generally and found that the immigrant is a child of God, possessed of inherent human dignity and entitled to be treated accordingly. The immigrant's rights, like our own, come from God and are expected to be secularly guaranteed by the constitution. Read up on Natural Law.

"Immigration reform" has many meanings.

Is the Fourteenth Amendment part of YOUR American Constitution including its Equal Protection Clause?

When the US Government exercises the normal prosecutorial discretion and decides NOT to go postal over "illegal" immigration concerns of the border-obsessed, does your constitution allow for substituting an informal non-governmental prosecution by collective temper tantrum reflecting the sober judgment of adults acting like toddlers in their terrible twos?

Do you have some definition of "persons" as used in the Fourteenth Amendment that allows state politicians in heat for votes to ignore equal protection?

Have you yet actually read the Fourteenth Amendment text?

Aren't we conservatives the folks who believe in the text of the constitution and not in convenient "penumbras" and "emanations" suited to the emotional flapdoodle of the moment? Just sayin'!

You seem capable of asking questions. Answering them: not so much!

No, I will not answer any more of your insipid and pointless questions.

I answered two of your questions in good faith as you asked. I gave you additional scholarly resources to give you better information than I can since I am certainly no theologian and do not claim to be. I paid you respect and in response I get only further game playing. You answer no questions and yet expect me to play your game.

You are apparently interested only in uberpreachiness and not in dialogue. You had your chance at dialogue but hid behind the uberpreachiness. There is no point in answering your questions. And I am through with you other than the following which will constitute my last words to you. They are not an invitation to further discussion since I refuse to get involved in all of the useless Catholic vs. Reformed nonsense that divides those who should fight together for respectable causes (which do NOT include disgraceful, impossible and hopeless [thank God!] efforts to maintain an iron curtain around the USA to keep out all those dangerous Latinos)

AND, if you do not choose to be Catholic, it's a free country. If you want go further to chew your old anti-Catholic slipper, likewise. I will tell you this: if I have to choose between bordermania and Roman Catholicism, it is going to be Catholicism now and forever, each and every time.

Catholics have buried two thousand years of our enemies. As recently as the Yalta Conference of 2/4-2/11/1945, FDR agreed to give Stalin control over Poland but pleaded that his craven folding to Stalin and betrayal of the Polish people not be made public until after the US presidential election of 1944 lest FDR be hurt with he Polish Catholics. Stalin responded by snidely asking: "How many divisions has the pope?"

Forty-five years later, Stalin's soviet successors and their Polish puppet dictator Wojciech Jaruzelski found out how many divisions were at the disposal of the Polish priest Karol Wojtlywa who had become Pope John Paul II. Jaruzelski's Polish KGB martyred a Polish anti-communist priest, Fr. Jerzy Popieluszko for his connections with the Catholic led labor union Solidarity (10 million members in Poland) and for his anti-communist sermons. Five years or so after the martyrdom of Fr. Popieluszko, Jaruzelski and the Polish puppet regime fell and soon thereafter the Iron Curtain and Berlin Wall and USSR followed suit (with additional thanks to Ronaldus Maximus and Margaret Thatcher). Jaruzelski, a Jesuit prep school graduate before WW II when the Jebbies were still God's Marines, and then a soviet gulag prisoner who betrayed the Faith and Poland, is nearing 90 years of age, suffers lymphoma, surviving in well-deserved disgrace, and, soon enough, shovels of dirt will cover his coffin too. Short of abject public repentance, he ought not to be buried in consecrated ground.

A century is a snap of the fingers. The Roman Catholic Church is the institutional memory of Western Civilization and we are a significant and permanent part of its future. The permanence of the Church so long as this world will last was guaranteed by the Founder and it was in all the Bibles (see the Peter passage in Matthew). That you choose to reject the Church is your absolute right but no real loss to us. Good luck with that border thing. Do you think it will be Mittens or Obozo who will mobilize the army necessary to arrest, uproot and deport 25 million "illegals?" We certainly are not going to jail them, bankrupt as we are.

It's a brand new day but from you it is merely the same old, same old and generates no further interest.

That having been said, I take my leave. Don't bother stalking me.

No, I will not answer any more of your insipid and pointless questions.
Translated - I won't answer your question because doing so doesn't support my assertions and the answer would actually prove the point you're making is right.

That having been said, I take my leave.
Translated - I would rather run away than prove my opponent right by answering a question.

Don't bother stalking me.
Now that's just pathetic. Oft tried and always wrong.

All I'll have to do is show up on another thread just like this one, do the same thing all over again and you will be right back trying this same old BS all over again.

C ya then.

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