Posted on 03/05/2012 7:11:41 AM PST by Golden Gate
This is NOT intended to be only a Rick Santorum thread.
GOP conservatives need to work together to prevail over Mitt Romney, who is the lame GOP-e candidate. Conservatives need to cinch / clinch the GOP nomination ASAP! For the final decision of who should be the actual 2012 GOP nominee, this should be an end-of-August national convention decision, and NOT a Spring primary decision. Conservatives and the GOP as a whole need the extra time to make the best final decision about the nominee.
Several weeks before the Iowa caucus, there was all of this discussion of having one candidate or another drop out. No suitable conservative candidate needs to drop out. The good idea that I had then but did not post, was to have the good conservative candidates work together and take turns in winning any primary that was "winner-take-all". Just make sure that conservative delegates go to the convention to make the best decision.
But it recent weeks, there are FReepers who are sounding an alarm and suggesting a reality check about the selection of delegates to the GOP convention. It may be only a few experts who understand the actual rules and process, and we novices may not be at all happy with the eventual results of the delegate selection process, or what can happen at the convention.
So with this in mind, I gave up on the idea of several good candidates sharing victories in the primaries in a effort to stop the GOP-e candidate. My idea for the last couple of weeks has been that GOP primary voters need to rally around one temporary placekeeper conservative candidate to win the nomination ASAP in March or April. Make it a done deal, and all conservative candidates, leaders and activists immediately begin the general election campaign.
The explicit understanding and gentlemen's agreement is that this temporary placekeeper `nominee' is only for the purpose to stop the GOP-e candidate(s) here in the primary, and hopefully at the convention.
The current conservative candidates, and all other conservative leaders and activists should immediately begin to challenge the Democrat leaders, candidates, and activists to discussions and debates. Don't brag about what a dream candidate might do in debates in the future. Have all conservative candidates and leaders begin to get the experience and prove themselves right now.
If we begin to do this now in March, then as we approach the convention we will have a very clear and realistic idea of who are truly the best nominees (Pres./VP) to represent the GOP in the general election. Again, let the final decision of the GOP nominee be a August convention decision, and not a Winter or Spring primary decision.
I understand the concept of party primaries. But there is continued talk that the GOP-e is more interested in defeating GOP conservatives than they are in defeating the Democrats in 2012. I have my ideas of an ideal primary process. I hope to present them for future reference. But the GOP-e party rules (and the various state election laws) may work against a good primary.
We don't know if the eventual nominee(s) at the convention will be strongly conservative. If there is an unacceptable GOP-e nominee, will this cause conservatives to implement third party contingencies?
There is all of this talk about "social issues". In some ways, our approach to this is rather lame. I know about the three-legged stool in conservative thought and politics. It is a lame example. Right To Life, for example, is a Founding Principle, and NOT a mere "social issue". We may need to have a table that has four or more legs, and our important Founding Principles need to be the first leg.
The public, the Democrats, and the media, all consider Rick Santorum to be the most well known and outspoken for right to life. That is the primary reason I suggest Rick be designated as the GOP conservative's temporary placeholder `nominee' to cinch the nomination as soon as possible.
There are candidates who eagarly or relucantly say "Yah, I'm pro~lyfe, ...now can we talk about something that is really important..."
Here in the primary, I would like to see conservatives make a strong presentation of right to life and other important conservative principles. If we can not effectively and successfully present our conservative message to all of the American public in the next five and half months before the convention, then maybe we don't deserve the strongest conservative as our nominee for 2012. And, the convention delegates may not want to select a strong conservative nominee.
What we should do now, is make a strong start, and make our best effort. Whether or not Rick Santorum is the eventual official nominee is immaterial. That should be a convention decision. What is important now, is first to use a placeholder to secure a conservative nomination now in March or April. And also, to immediately begin making a strong start in general election mode, and presenting our best conservative message to the American public. We can not waste precious weeks and months limiting our efforts to only GOP voters. And again, no suitable candidates need to drop out.
I also think that conservatives continue the bad habit of being way too focused on specualtion about the power and future success of various dream candidates. Don't wait for the general election. Last summer or fall the conservative candidates and leaders should have begun to challenge the Democrat leaders, candiates, and activists to discussions and debates. Don't brag about what a dream candidate might do in debates in the future. Have all conservative candidates, leaders and activists begin to get the experience and prove themselves right now. In addition to debating on a national presidential level, our prime conservative leaders and candidates should now also be willing to discuss and debate the issues with Democrat candidates on a state and local level. Start now, there is no time to waste.
Voters in the Super Tuesday GOP primary should cast their vote for Rick Santorum, so that conservatives can secure the GOP nomination ASAP!
At this time, Rick is the only conservative who can beat Willard the Lib.
So Earth to Newt: What are you doing besides handing the nomination to Willard on a silver platter, my friend??
All Latest Polls
Monday, March 05
Ohio Republican Presidential Primary Quinnipiac Romney 34, Santorum 31, Gingrich 15
Ohio Republican Presidential Primary PPP (D) Romney 37, Santorum 36, Gingrich 15
Ohio Republican Presidential Primary Rasmussen Reports Romney 31, Santorum 32, Gingrich 13
A brokered convention will allow the GOP to install a candidate of their choosing.
We’re not going to have a brokered convention. That’s just the msm’s wet dream. We’re going to have mitt romney as the gop nominee unless newt drops out before super tuesday. Plain and simple.
Post a link on the FR State message boards for the Super Tuesday states!
Gingrich for months has said, “Just wait until Super Tuesday” that will kick start my campaign. Now he has said, “Well I am going to win Georgia”. Big deal. There are 10 states in play and he is going to win ONE state and that is what all the bragging he was talking about. Seriously, the way he was bragging on himself and how Super Tuesday was going to be all about him then why is he only going to win ONE STATE. I know he loves to brag about himself, but he has absolutely ZERO to brag with. South Carolina and Georgia does not win a general election.
And you can bet your bottom dollar it WON'T be a conservative! We'll have mitt, jeb or christie foisted upon us and we'll be told to like it or lump it.
We’re going to have mitt romney as the gop nominee unless newt drops out before super tuesday. Plain and simple.
But, but Newt is going to win the state that he lived in and represented a small district for 20 years. This after saying Super Tuesday was going to jump start his campaign. I guess he thought he was going to win all ten or something. I predict he will drop out on Wednesday.
Hope to be back this afternoon...
There is not going to be a brokered convention. And even if there was, it would likely just result in the selection of an establishment candidate (Jeb, Christie, etc).
“I predict he will drop out on Wednesday.”
As usual, you’re wrong.
If we play for the tie, we deserve to lose!
Play for the win.
Playing for the tie and watching Mitt take the nomination would be a disaster.
Which would throw the nomination to Romney again.
Geez, what is this, night of the loser strategies.
Here’s a simple table.
Romney vs Paul -> Romneyslide, every state
Romney vs Gingrich -> Romneyslide, everything outside the south.
Romney vs Santorum -> Santorum wins.
This is not hard people.
Romney versus Santorum equals huge landslide for Romney.
That may be too late. This primary season is making me physically ill. I saw ron paul on some candidate forum that cnn held this weekened and felt like shooting the tv. It's a disgrace that that blabbering, incompetent, blind, anti-conservative fool is running in our primary! Then there's the smarmy mitt! We got a 30% candidate in 2008 and unless newt drops out fast we'll get a 25% candidate this time around. Pisses me off to no end!
Look at Missouri - Santorum dominated Romney in the head to head.
Sorry but numerous published polls prove you wrong. There not one poll that shows Romney beating Rick head to head. None.
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