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To: Windflier

BTW,

Thanks to you, I posted the article on ATS here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread815102/pg1

Given the liberal bent of most posters and mods there . . . if anyone wants to increase the likelihood that some of the more fair-minded folks there would see the truth—they are welcome to post on the thread.

AT this late hour in the disintegration of our Republic . . . I figure we need all the publicity of the truth . . . that we can spread far and wide.


11 posted on 03/02/2012 4:06:58 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
I posted the article on Above Top Secret

Good on you, Quix. Very well done.

38 posted on 03/02/2012 4:43:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Quix; Windflier
I posted the article on ATS here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread815102/pg1


from a response post by Bo Xian at the ATS link:

18. "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."
David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

From the David Spangler page on Wikipedia:

Ironically, given his criticisms of the New Age movement and his attempts to draw out of it a balanced, practical spirituality of service and human betterment, Spangler has been a focus of anti-New Age propaganda primarily from religious writers, some of whom falsely identified him as the "Director of Planetary Initiative for the United Nations," a wholly fictitious position in an organization with which he had no association. Likewise, the claim that he said that "no one will enter the New Age unless he or she makes a pledge to worship Lucifer and takes a Luciferic initiation," is equally untrue.
This accusation grew out of a talk that Spangler gave at Findhorn on the nature of the Jungian Shadow and its relationship to the Christ, saying that Lucifer, whose name means "Lightbringer", could be a metaphor for this Shadow, since if we can confront it and heal it, we can discover the Light of Christ within. At the end of the talk, he jokingly called this transformative encounter with one's psychological Shadow a "Luciferic Initation".
When this lecture was published by Findhorn, this joke was included, though without any context to show he had been bantering with his audience, and was later seized upon by various fundamentalist writers as evidence that people in the New Age were followers of Satan or Lucifer, wholly ignoring the actual content—and context—of the lecture. Later writers elaborated upon this idea of a "Luciferic Initation", expanding it into the quote given above and falsely attributing this new quote to Spangler.


I didn't get the "joke", either; but just sayin'...

72 posted on 04/17/2014 9:15:37 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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