To: Responsibility2nd
There is no constitutionally enumerated power to ban drugs. This is clear and while there is no good constitutional argument to support this usurpation of power, I think legalizing drugs would be just as effective at destroying this country as the Cloward-Pivan plan due to unconstitutional welfare state, and the unconstitutional health care mandate. There are lots of bigger constitutional infringements than drug laws that need to be fixed before we get to the point of worrying about it.
Libertarians are far from being strict constitutionalists. They have an agenda and they use the constitution to forward their agenda regardless of the harm it does. When it doesn't support their agenda they ignore it or lie about it. There are a lot of Republican "elite" who do the same thing. There are some social "conservatives" that are just as guilty. Out of those groups it's the Republican "elite" that have done the most harm to the Republican party. Libertarians are just gaining enough power to be a pain. Social conservatives are generally honest in their motivations.
Ya it's pretty obvious but I understand being angry. It's hard not to look at the state of our nation and not get angry. Just figure out who your friends are before you start taking it out on an ally.
137 posted on
02/10/2012 2:35:23 PM PST by
Durus
(You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
To: Durus
I think legalizing drugs would be just as effective at destroying this country as the Cloward-Pivan plan due to unconstitutional welfare state, and the unconstitutional health care mandate. Only if legalization led to a vast increase in use, which is highly doubtful. It stands to reason that most people who aren't deterred from using, say, heroin or meth because of the properties of the drugs themselves also aren't deterred by the possibility of jail time. One might anticipate a significant increase in marijuana use - because there the penalty for illegal use is worse than the drug itself - but not nearly enough to "destroy this country."
There are lots of bigger constitutional infringements than drug laws that need to be fixed
Agreed.
before we get to the point of worrying about it.
Why before? Why not in parallel with?
139 posted on
02/10/2012 2:42:28 PM PST by
JustSayNoToNannies
(A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
To: Durus
Libertarians are far from being strict constitutionalists.
I see and applaud you for wanting to distance yourself from (L)libertarians.
Unfortunately, the actions of many of your co-horts (Yes Nannies, I mean you) speak to an opposite truth. While they say they oppose Ron Paul, there is always a qualifier.
"While I wouldn't vote for Paul, he is right on the Constitution and blah, blah, blah..."
To add further insult to injury the many "strict constutionalists" here at Free Republic can easily be identified as they attack moral conservatives as do-gooders and nanny staters and worse.
It really is an "us verses them" cultural war between the libertarians and the Christians here at FR. And I will admit, when one of "them" slips up speaks from the heart on his true liberaltarian viewpoints and gets the zot...
I feel good.
143 posted on
02/10/2012 2:55:01 PM PST by
Responsibility2nd
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