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To: bushpilot1; Red Steel; rxsid; LucyT; Danae; GregNH
I do not consider myself to be a “superbirther” but rather a truth-seeking fact finder and evidence examiner. It goes back to being a retired CPA and Certified Fraud Examiner who happened to spend six years in court in a custody battle. I had to practically memorize the Texas Code of Civil Procedure (the green and red ones for those years...Texas lawyers will know what I mean)

IMO, the WKA court decided that WKA was a 14A citizen. His parents were “subject to the jurisdiction” of the USA and he was born in the country. WKA was NOT an NBC.

The WKA court cannot be blamed if, subsequently, this decision was twisted first by Ankeny and then by Malihi to declare Barry (with a UK subject father) to be NBC, and, in effect, to also declare Anwar al-Awlaki, an anchor baby who blossomed into a terrorist to be eligible to be POTUS!

I do NOT believe that these distortions are what the WKA court decided. IIRC, Leo Donofrio came around to stating that WKA was correctly decided, once he correctly parsed the NBC language in the Minor holding on the definition of NBC.

50 posted on 02/04/2012 5:40:35 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
What about rummy Chick's contention that the lower court used the term "natural born citizen" and the Supreme Court in it's holding ruled "upheld without exception" ?

Would that not change the understood meaning of Wong Kim Ark to be a decision that he IS a "natural born citizen"?

56 posted on 02/04/2012 5:50:00 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Seizethecarp

You evaded my question...you wrote. “WKA was decided correctly”.

How was it decided correctly? Was it a correct decision giving citizenship to the children of aliens or an alien parent?

How is this a correct decision?


59 posted on 02/04/2012 5:53:53 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Seizethecarp

What needs to happen is the Indiana case being appealed.

That has GOT to happen or we are going to be hogtied with that obamanation for the rest of history.

I am so tempted to write about this, but Cindy Simpson, Leo Donofrio and Mario Apuzzo are all doing a brilliant job of putting this latest atrocity into context.

Not to mention a recent article at Anti-Mullah. Hat tip to the poster who sent it to me.... I won’t drop names in this one. But I think Alan at Anti-mullah has a REAL point to make here.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2012/02/iranian-origin-judge-rules-obama.html

Saturday, February 04, 2012
IRANIAN ORIGIN JUDGE RULES OBAMA A NATURAL and OK!
RECEIVED EMAIL

Dr. Taitz, I don’t know why Judge Malihi would take the route he did. I thought he had a back bone and Kemp looked to me like he has one too from what he wrote.

You presented your case well, which gave rise to so many unanswered questions. As an American, Malihi, should have been dying for answers to those questions. Why isn’t he?

Was Obama born in 1890? Is he curious even slightly why Obama isn’t going to practice law anymore with his superior degree from Harvard?

What about those name changes, he’s not interested in the questions that surround his various identities? No good American, in their right mind, I am talking real patriots, would be able to just walk away without the answers, if they had watched and read the hearings like the rest of us.

He was the Judge for crying out loud! I can’t believe he would be satisfied without the answers to your questions. Well, my prayer is that our good Lord continues to prepare a table before you in the presense of our enemies and annoint your head with oil as your cup runneth over, so that surely goodness and mercy will follow you and all good Americans all the days of our life so we shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever! God Bless you Orly!

The whole country (the ones who matter that embrace one nation under G-d) love you and value every single thing you have done. The only thing I can think of that must keep you going is that the light of the Lord and all his angels are leading you every single step of the way. Praise G-d for that!

Answer: I don’t know, what happened to Malihi. I know, that he is not American by birth.,

He is Persian, Iranian. The last name and the first names of his parents are all Persian.

He is an appointee of the Democrat governor Zell Miller.

(Alan Note: Similar to Judge David Carter in California being a Clinton apppointee, who under similar circumstances also folded like a wet napkin and used a member of the Obama law firm defense team to write his equally shameful, cowardly capitulation decision/motion to dismiss. Should he still be calling himself a Marine and staining them?)

The only thing, that I don’t know, is:

Alan note: whether it was a set up from the start or whether someone got to him recently (including the Islamic Regime in Iran which could put pressure on Malihi if he or his wife have any relatives or even close friends they could harm, still in Iran).

Remember and note how Obama protects Islamic Iran and refuses to take action against Iran’s surrogate Syrian brutal, mostly Iranian conducted slaughter in Syria.

Note: how Obama is blocking legislation to allow frozen Iranian funds in the USA to be drawn upon to pay American survivor relatives from the 1983 bombing in Lebanon - as per the judgment issued by a Federal Court - saving Iran around $2.5 BILLION!

Was any of this an incentive/ purchase/bribe/inducement to Islamic Iran to threaten physical FATAL violence on Malihi and family? And their ability and prediliction to murder opponents is a well known, proven fact.

Was this judge’s own foreign background, specially IRANIAN, a key for his deciding the IMPOSSIBLE that Obama is a “natural born citizen”? He based it on a still unproved location of birth and IGNORED the fact that Obama’s father was NOT an American, which is a deciding factor to disqualify Obama from claiming the right to be President or at the very least on the ballot next time around?

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Hellfire and bloody damnation... I am all out of freaking tinfoil... Not that I need it now. None of us does.


60 posted on 02/04/2012 5:59:23 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Seizethecarp; bushpilot1
All one has to do is read the question before the Court.

The question presented by the record is whether a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution...

The question was answered...
The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative.

He was a citizen by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.

94 posted on 02/04/2012 9:56:00 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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