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This situation is precisely what the framers were concerned with. And guess what, that specific scenario is now possible.

If simply being born in the U.S. is enough to be considered a "natural born Citizen", then the current Dauphin of France (as considered by the Legitimists) Prince Louis Duke of Burgundy would be considered POTUS eligible.

French Royal Family
Legitimist

Prince Louis was born in New York City, 2010. Yet, his father is a French and Spanish citizen (but not a U.S. citizen) and his mother is Venezuelan.

If the French decided to have another restoration of the House of Burbon, the King of France would be considered POTUS eligible.
Or, if Louis Alphonse were to be elected POTUS 1st...and then the French decided to restore the crown...wow!

Imagine that. The King of France and the President of the U.S. as one in the same.

The judge has just essentially rule that he considers the current Dauphine of France to be POTUS eligible!


Coat of arms of the Dauphin of France.

I believe the founders and framers would be repulsed by such a ruling.

1 posted on 02/04/2012 3:17:38 PM PST by rxsid
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To: LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...
Ping!

"A Rat Called Tandem (natural born Citizen, GA ballot hearing, Obama)"

2 posted on 02/04/2012 3:18:36 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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PREDICTION: After the coming election is over we are going to see a move from liberals to clearly define what a natural borne citizen is. The definition they will seek will specify that citizens must be born of citizens so as to eliminate any potential candidacy from Jindal or Rubio.
3 posted on 02/04/2012 3:23:26 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: rxsid
What happened?

Maybe it's as simple as the Obama/Holder Dept. of Just Us telling the judge.. "You know that little incident in Cincinnati back in 1996? Oh, you don't have to have been there. We have ways to prove that you were there and . . . ."

.. or the Clinton way.. "We'll start by killing your pets then . . . ."

5 posted on 02/04/2012 3:31:56 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: rxsid

Here is the actual decision, for any who have not read it:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/80417613/Farrar-Welden-Swensson-Powell-v-Obama-Judge-Malihi-Final-Decision-Georgia-Ballot-Challenge-2-3-2012

The judge based his decision on the US Supreme Court case of Wong Kim Ark:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html

and Ankeny v Indiana:

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf


6 posted on 02/04/2012 3:41:22 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: rxsid
The Constutional Meaning Of "Natural Born Citizen"
7 posted on 02/04/2012 3:47:55 PM PST by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: rxsid

“But doing so would render the natural-born citizen clause to be inoperative, in that 14th Amendment citizenship, and nothing more, would be the requirement to be President.”

No. It merely means that anyone born in the USA of parents here legally IS a natural born citizen allowed to run for President. All other offices would still allow naturalized citizens to run. It would NOT override the NBC clause, but define it.

To the extend the 14th deals with citizenship, it was to overturn the Dred Scott decision. It was the states telling the Court they had ruled incorrectly in Dred Scott.


10 posted on 02/04/2012 3:52:37 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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Ping..............

A Rat Called Tandem (natural born Citizen, GA ballot hearing, Obama)

Any rat would be better than 0h0m0allah!

12 posted on 02/04/2012 3:56:50 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: rxsid

The fix is in...

I am sick of even looking at Drudge each morning...
“Happy Days are Here Again”
“Jobless rate falls to lowest in three years”
as Obozo is kissing Paluzie.

The conservatives are in shambles with Mittens running high.
Judges are running wild to protect the Commie messiah.
The Marxist Stream Media is all giggly over their new Karl.
What is left of the Tea Party will be driven into exile.

I am about to predict that Obumbo will be reelected, and America will end by 2015.
Welcome to the new USSA.
Fortunately, I am not there to experience it.

Am I overly pessimistic, or what?


13 posted on 02/04/2012 3:57:56 PM PST by AlexW
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To: rxsid
then the current Dauphin of France (as considered by the Legitimists) Prince Louis Duke of Burgundy would be considered POTUS eligible.

This is really a silly argument. Eligibility is no great hurdle. Nor was it designed to be. The vast majority of Americans over the age of 35 are eligible to be President. Electability is a whole different matter, a task so enormously difficult that only 43 Americans in the history of this country have been successful at. Statistically, you have a better chance at winning the Powerball than you do at being elected President.

27 posted on 02/04/2012 4:30:07 PM PST by Drew68
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To: rxsid

Barry and Michelle have PLANNED from the beginning to rely on the super-expanded version of the 14th Barry “taught” at Chicago. That is clear from words they used back in 2008 at the initial release of the faked certs. That the Administrative Judge punted using the 14th is a tell they were on top of him.

I’d wonder if the word “tandem” has some tracer meaning.


35 posted on 02/04/2012 4:47:08 PM PST by bvw
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To: rxsid

My sad conclusion.
0bama does not have a US Birth Certificate
ALL of 0bama’s school records show 0bama is not a US Citizen.
0bama will never show his records.
0bama could have sent down one of the two “certificates” (LOL) obtained last spring.

For various reasons, no one will compel 0bama to demonstrate he is eligible to hold any office.


51 posted on 02/04/2012 5:42:00 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: rxsid

Just watched THE PATRIOT. Mel Gibson’s character said “An elected legislature can trample on a man’s rights just as much as a king can.” How true today.


61 posted on 02/04/2012 6:01:05 PM PST by Terry Mross (.)
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To: rxsid
My daughter who is a born dual citizen, is also eligible. She, and thousands like her can become president and use our Armed forces to protect their home country. Just like Osama, she is recognized as a citizen in two countries when born. Yet she will have dual rights for life, in both countries. She has the American BC, and that is all that she needs to qualify.

Imagine a country so stupid as to give the keys of their defense to a dual or foreign citizen. That is now the USA.

No citizens of another country in the world would be so stupid.

86 posted on 02/04/2012 8:06:56 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: rxsid
Just how wrong can you be?

The judge did not rule the natural born citizen clause inoperable at all.

It still applies, as it always has, to those citizens who were not “natural born” but “naturalized”.

Naturalized citizens are not eligible for the Presidency and neither are non-citizens.

I didn't know the coat of arms of the Dauphin of France had a Dolphin on it! That makes Mark Twain's joke about the “Dolphin of France” even funnier!!!!!

178 posted on 02/07/2012 10:37:45 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: rxsid
You ought to pay more attention.

I have often posted the results of my ultra-scientific research, using the latest DNA kits. I have proven tbeyond any shadow of scientific doubt that Barack Hussein Obama is not only our President, but is also the God-Annointed....

Le Dauphin Perdu
de la belle France

The only question you should have as a loyal subject of King Barry is, "Since when does a King have to leave office?" It is a lifetime gig. The discovery of Prince Louis, Duke of Burgundy living in the Big Apple is most reassuring. He can be Heir to the Throne!

Pour me a Bourbon. Please.

189 posted on 06/02/2014 10:15:31 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Vote for a gay African Marxist for POTUS? Sure. What could go wrong?)
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