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To: Smokin' Joe; Responsibility2nd
It's funny how druggie losers always have a list to use to prevent law enforcement from trying to do their job and blame their efforts instead of the actual drug usage that led to the law enforcement efforts

So, lets make our own list, eh?

DRUG USE has led to:

premature deaths in users

premature deaths in those around the users due to the actions of those on drugs

loss of motor control and injuries caused by drug use

loss of memory, causing work accidents and reduced productivity

loss of coherent thinking in life, leading to people actually believing immorality is the answer to the law instead of recognizing people do NOT do good on their own, but will degrade themselves if allowed to

loss of coherent thinking in a person's future, whether it be lifestyle, a mate, or whether to go to the bathroom or go to Walmart...it is all the same, if you are using drugs, you aint thinking straight

Causing a person to chase women all the time instead of go to college free

Causing a person to allow themselves to be used as a sex toy in exchange for free drugs, ruining their reputation

causing a person to get sexually transmitted diseases because of their licentious lifestyle because they became drug users and associated only with those who did drugs

causing a person to unplug their television while their children are watching it so they can pawn it for drug money

causing a person to forget some critical step in a complex task causing an aircraft to crash, or a train to crash, or an automobile to crash

causing a person to lose self control and make a fool out of themselves in social situations at inopportune times causing that person to be a social outcast

Now, this list Can go on, but remember something: NOT ONCE did I mention anything that had to do with drugs being illegal

all these things happened because someone did drugs. NOT because they broke the law, not because they were in jail, but because they did drugs

BECAUSE THEY DID DRUGS and BECAUSE THEY DID DRUGS ALONE.

The RONULANS all make the strawman argument about legalization as being some cure.

People going to jail or people being hurt because of the rare occasions of Police mistakes are outweighed by a factor of millions when all you consider is the people who are harmed by the simple use of illegal drugs

The greatest loss America faces now, is the number of adult democrats due to marijuana useage as a teen or college age person.

i mean that, too

Marijuana use leads a person to be a Marxist or a Libertarian on moral issues, and never a Conservative.

62 posted on 01/31/2012 3:46:05 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

Very well said.

(applause)

The pro-drug liberals on this site are sickening. I notice they never have the stones to take this liberaltarian pro-Paul crapola on main-stream threads in direct opposition to Jim Robinson’s express directives.

These Paultards are like cockroaches. They scurry around in the dark. Yet, when they screw up and say too much - they get the zot.

I destest libs. Libertarians and Liberals. (same thing)


65 posted on 01/31/2012 4:31:41 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Newt or else. What part of "Join or Die" don't you understand?)
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To: RaceBannon
It's funny how druggie losers always have a list to use to prevent law enforcement from trying to do their job and blame their efforts instead of the actual drug usage that led to the law enforcement efforts

Which "legitimate law enforcement effort'?

Legalize that crap, and the law enforcement folks can go after thieves and murderers and child molesters, and maybe even some criminals in the stinking government.

Funny how 'everyone' who thinks people who were against prohibition were drunken sots, p*ssing their pants on the sidewalk, or that someone who has a list is a "druggie loser".

There isn't too much on your list that couldn't be blamed on alcohol, is there?

Let's try that out, shall we?

DRUG ALCOHOL USE has led to:

premature deaths in users

premature deaths in those around the users due to the actions of those on drugs alcohol

loss of motor control and injuries caused by drug alcohol use

loss of memory, causing work accidents and reduced productivity

loss of coherent thinking in life, leading to people actually believing immorality is the answer to the law instead of recognizing people do NOT do good on their own, but will degrade themselves if allowed to

loss of coherent thinking in a person's future, whether it be lifestyle, a mate, or whether to go to the bathroom or go to Walmart...it is all the same, if you are using drugs drinking, you aint thinking straight

Causing a person to chase women all the time instead of go to college free (and here I thought puberty was sufficient)

Causing a person to allow themselves to be used as a sex toy in exchange for free drugs drinks, ruining their reputation

causing a person to get sexually transmitted diseases because of their licentious lifestyle because they became drug users alcoholics and associated only with those who did drugs drank

causing a person to unplug their television while their children are watching it so they can pawn it for drug beer money

causing a person to forget some critical step in a complex task causing an aircraft to crash, or a train to crash, or an automobile to crash

causing a person to lose self control and make a fool out of themselves in social situations at inopportune times causing that person to be a social outcast

Maybe we should try that Prohibition crap again, too?

Every step along either road is a conscious choice by the person using their substance of preference.

Self-destructive people will manage to be self-destructive, no matter what, laws or no laws, and they are doing a fine job of it.

Since the drug problem is the result of determined self-destructive people who are (maybe you noticed) IGNORING the law anyway, maybe the rest of us would like to be able to carry enough cash across a state line to dicker on equipment or a car without worrying about being pulled over and having it taken from us on the alleged presumption it is 'drug money'.

Maybe you don't value your liberty as much as your false security, or your magnanimous sense of 'saving' the druggies from themselves (a losing proposition most of the time--I know, I spent a decade and my best shot at retirement trying to save just one), or maybe you are making a little on the side over it being prohibited.

So here's another list backatcha, from a guy who runs ten or more ten million dollar projects a year and makes a decent six figure income doing it (neither 'druggie' nor 'loser').

Is it the 'job' of law enforcement to search premises, people, and effects without a warrant? (see the 4th Amendment).

Is it the job of Law enforcement to kick doors in, shoot the dog, and check the address later?

Is it the job of law enforcement to take money from people who have not been charged with a crime-- nor ever are--under the presumption that they are guilty of a drug crime they are often not even charged with?

If you cannot see the erosion of the Rights of Americans done in the name of the War on Drugs, you either are far younger than this great-grandpa, or you just haven't been paying attention.

Some of my friends have died protecting the Rights you would throw on the fire along with billions of dollars annually to protect the self-destructive from themselves, a battle that is a losing battle at best.

The only greater debacle in American History is the War on Poverty.

In the meantime, the Cartels control our southern border, armed with money that has never been taxed, and corrupting many of those who would have otherwise taken action against them. Namely, our own government which is supposed to not only be protecting American soverignty, but our Constitutional Rights.

The rest of us, those who do not do drugs are still paying for the failures, not just in extraconstitutional social programs, but with our Liberty as well.

66 posted on 01/31/2012 5:30:37 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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