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To: edge919
There’s also the story that Barak Sr.’s wife was in the Philippines for unknown reasons. She could have been anywhere, even on her way back from Kenya and stopping in Indonsia. The spokesbabe for the HI DOH, Janice Okubo, once made a comment that if one was born in Bali, it’s supposed to say that on his birth certificate. She might have been giving out Obama’s real place of birth. Plus, Tammy Duckworth was quoted in a Honolulu newspaper story that said he was born in Indonesia.

The Duckworth comment was a mistake later retracted by that Newspaper. The comments about the wife in the Philippines is a lose thread that I haven't yet found a way to categorize to my satisfaction. Fred Nerks and I think Mojito Joe (and perhaps others) have mentioned this before, and it just seems like an extra part you might find after you put an engine back in a car. :)

I have to take a few things as demonstrable assumptions, and work from there. I believe Barack shares a bloodline with his Grandfather Stanley because in certain pictures they look almost identical, so I assume that it is a fact he was born either to Stanley or Stanley Ann. I happen to favor the Stanley Ann theory because I believe it has the more supporting evidence.

That being established in my mind, I have to ask myself under what possible circumstances would Stanley Ann be traveling to such a place as Bali, Indonesia, or even Kenya while pregnant with a baby in 1961? The probable answer comes back as not bloody likely. The Cost, the Family Concern, the Reason for going? No sensible reason stands out.

On the other hand, that she would be in North West Washington State in 1961 makes perfect sense. It can be presumed that Grandma Dunham was ashamed of the fact that her Daughter was pregnant by a black man by the fact that she never told her co-workers at the bank that she HAD a grandson. This is not the behavior of a normal grandmother, but it IS the behavior of someone who is ashamed of the fact that her grandson is half black.

So if we accept the notion that Grandma Dunham (and perhaps Grandad too) was ashamed of the fact that their daughter was pregnant by a black man, it is not unreasonable to believe that they urged her to go stay with her Aunt or Uncle in NorthWest Washington.

And so on. THIS narrative sounds plausible, while I cannot think of, nor have I heard of, a good explanation for why and how Stanley could have ended up in any other place but Washington or Hawaii. If anybody comes up with an alternative explanation that makes sense, i'm all ears.

218 posted on 01/20/2012 2:45:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The Duckworth comment was a mistake later retracted by that Newspaper.

The reporter CLAIMS it was his mistake and that he "found" the information about Obama being born on the Internet. But this doesn't exactly add up because everthing else in the story was based on his interview with Tammy Duckworth. Why would a reporter create a fact based on a comment made by the subject of the interview. My bet is that Obama told this to Tammy Duckworth or that maybe she misunderstood that he lived there and was not born there. I know they retracted it, but the explanation just doesn't add up.

227 posted on 01/20/2012 2:53:41 PM PST by edge919
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To: DiogenesLamp
Just looking back and forth from Here to Fogbow I noticed that Sterngard Friegen said this.

Can someone please give me a clean link to the most recent Jack Maskell CRS report on President Obama's eligibility, and possibly references to the pages where Minor is discussed and NBC status is defined?

I find this hilarious on multiple levels.
1. The Silly bugger doesn't seem to know how to use the internet.
2. The Silly bugger doesn't seem to know that one of the criticism of the Jack Maskell report is that it didn't deal with Minor v Happersett.
3. The Silly bugger thought *I* was the ignorant\stupid one. :)

249 posted on 01/20/2012 3:09:49 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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