Me too, I like newt but would go for Rick {either Rick but the Texas gubberner got off to such a bad start that he is burned toast}.
Rupaul is my preference compared to Ron Paul.
Posted on 01/09/2012 7:39:18 AM PST by publius321
Yes. They both like each other. Have you ever seen them go after each other in the debates? Never.
Santorum and Gingrich should form a POTUS/VP alliance now and announce it.
“To be honest, I’m torn on this one...”
I feel exactly the same way. I think the two candidates should work it out in private, like gentleman and I will vote for either of the two.
But there is no way I will vote for Romney in the primary or eneral. I would definitely vote for a 3rd party candidate. I’ve been punked enough on the notion that compromising by supporting a compromising leftist fraud under the GOP banner will save us.
I am at peace.
Frankly, I don't trust anyone in our federal government, whether in the White House or in Congress, and I trust very few governors or ex-governors. No matter who we get, we need the most conservative, small-government, Tea-Party Congress possible. I'm not particularly fond of Santorum because I don't think he has it in him to cut government, but I think we're better off having the not-Romneys fight it out a little as they prepare to battle Romney when it's down to two choices.
I definitely agree that one must go, and one will go at some point.
I don’t have a horse in this race at this point, although I will say I prefer Santorum over Gingrich, but I think both of them are weak candidates. Santorum strikes me as a bit to dry to be able to rally voters behind him, but perhaps I’m wrong on that.
Gingrich comes across as a lecturer and appears arrogant, but he could certainly smoke Obama in debates.
Both candidates are much, much more desirable than four more years of Obama.
I am having a hard time figuring out just exactly how Mitt Romney seems to be galvanizing support as he appears to be doing. The best theory I can figure is that people have bought his argument that he is the most electable.
I do not think there is anyway Romney can defeat Obama in a national election, but of course I cannot predict the future.
My fear at this time is that we are close to being snookered into a candidate that cannot win.
“I knew there was something about this whole theory about voting for Santorum is a vote for Obama that doesn’t quite fit and that is:
If noone can take Romney out how are they going to take Obama out?” -
Your premise is that “romney needs to be taken out”.
He doesn’t. It’s an illusion. He’s the ONE liberal and has terrible poll numbers except for in New England, home of Frank, Dodd & Kennedy.
Romney is unworthy of the “front-runner” tag just as was McCain who was in the 30% range.
If Romney was running against ANY of the conservatives, Gingrich, Santorum or Perry ALONE - Romney would lose by an unmitigated freaking LANDSLIDE.
It would be such a landslide he would be utterly humiliated out of politics. Rightfully so because he is a glass jawed paper tiger marked by a career replete with political duplicity.
I am embarassed on behalf of the drones who consider this guy worthy of serious consideration; but if I were a snake oil salesman I would pay a fortune for their names and phone numbers.
I think you mean Gingrich and Santorum. ;-)
That’s what I’m hoping. Good to see some “rational thought”. :-)
I wish pundits would spend more time in exposing Ron Paul. I have no idea what percentage the BlueRepublicans are in his polling and campaign donations, but with as much money/support that he has garnered, I would wager it is significant.
Conservative candidates are getting hit by Romney and Paul. Notice how Paul never attacks Romney?
Right on!
I, for one, am not going to call for any candidate other than Newt to remove himself from the race. These are all veiled pleas to get Newt back to the forefront with dubious claims of conservatism based on decades-old performance.
He ran his race the way he wanted, he should live with it and quit bitching. I will not be cajoled into calling for his immaculation (ala Obama) 11 months away from the election. You can bet your a$$ that the Democrats are just itching to bring up whatever unpublicized dirt they have on him. (His history tells me that the likelihood is high).
“Seniors, both Conservative and Rats, go to the polls in droves, and they will not support a candidate who wants to cut their social security.”
As a Conservative senior and a retiree, I think you may be wrong on that. The future of this country is too important to leave the entitlements untouched. If we all do not make necessary sacrifices, this Republic will fall in the next four years.
I am supporting Santorum in South Carolina because I believe he can pull the most cross over votes from the Dems that have left that party and will vote Independent, but I would vote for Newt if he wins the nomination. Perry and Paul have no chance and, hopefully, will throw their support behind someone besides Mitt when they leave the race (and don’t run third party).
Obama must be beaten or we all lose in November 2012!
And now Willard (30%) is scheming to do the same versus Newt (23%), Santorum (19%), and Perry (5%) - the evangelical favs by far and away.
There is a major difference in that far more states follow a more proportional representation rule rather than "winner take all". Winner take all generally applies in a lot of those states only if the winner gets more than 50%. So, if the non-Romney's are splitting that vote and keeping him below 50%, he won't amass a huge delegate lead the way McCain could in 2008. That greatly increases the likelihood of a brokered convention, which is when anti-Romney's could unit behind one candidate.
Maybe they could flip a coin. Actually, I would prefer Santorum in the POTUS although the thought of Gingrich dismantling Obama in a debate would be fun to watch.
Again,for as slimy as Romney is, and he is quite slimy, the Obama machine will be 10x worse.
Yes, I agree Gingrich is probably the best one to take on the that machine.
My gut is NG and RS have something worked out in advance.
Or,else they really are dumb.
Neither of them have to believe splitting the vote basically 3 ways is a winning option.
I think they need to MAKE A DEAL with Perry and Huntsmen to drop out and support to whoever has the momentum.
On their way out Perry and Huntsmen could attact Paul.
“Thats nice but Romney is kicking his...” - Leep
That’s the misconception created by the media. Romney is not “kicking ANYONE’S ass”. If conservatives loose it’s because we have 3 choices and cannot coalesce. It’s simple math. The vast majority can and will reject Snake-Oil Romney - yet he can still win like McCain.
How can we say that Romney is kicking some ass with 25-30% support 9except for in socialist New England of course)?
Using that terminology confirms that the RINO-media propaganda is working once again.
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Again,for as slimy as Romney is, and he is quite slimy, the Obama machine will be 10x worse.
Yes, I agree Gingrich is probably the best one to take on the that machine.
My gut is NG and RS have something worked out in advance.
Or,else they really are dumb.
I can not believe either one of them thinks splitting the vote basically 3 ways is a winning option.
I think they need to MAKE A DEAL with Perry and Huntsmen to drop out and support whoever has the momentum.
Before dropping out however, Perry and Huntsmen NEED to attact Paul.
“Bottom line: Who do you want facing Obama in those debates? I like Rick, but Newt will clearly show a distinct difference and make the arguments that need to be made to totally destroy Obama and expose him for the Socialist he is. No one ever says Santorum won that debate. If you want a conservative, you’re best shot is Newt.” - Larryleo
I thought the same thing back when Alan Keyes was running against Obama for the ILL senate seat. After all, who could beat Alan Keyes in a debate? After watching that highly promoted debate, Keyes did great - but it didn’t matter.
I was impressed by how Obama handled the debate as one might be impressed by the cunning craftiness of Lucifer. That’s when I knew Obama was going to eventually be President.
In the end, the general public are not like you larryleo. If they were, we probably wouldn’t be in this debacle. Substance and debate skills are -essential- but they also have to -like- our nominee. The problem with the drones supporting Romney is they think personality is the ONLY thing that mattters.
I will support Newt or Santorum but I think Santorum has enough ability to make cogent arguments when put on the spot -and- a congenial enough personality to appeal to a broad base of voters.
I agree with you on that, but I do see him being able to win the general by pulling enough independants and crossover democrats.
I know I'm flailing at windmills here, but we have an excellant chance to make some real progress in reversing the downward spiral if we can just unite behind Gingrich. I know many freepers hate Newt as much as they hate Romney, but that is not (to use your handle) rational thought. As another freeper said a few days ago, we don't need a perfect candidate, we need a junkyard dog to start dismantling the institutions that are sucking the life out of our country. Santorum is not that guy, but the single issue voters who are supporting him could almost literally throw the baby out with the bathwater by supporting him resulting in Romney getting the nomination.
I do not believe this country is done for yet, but another term with zero might get us so far down the road there will be no way to make it back without a revolution.
Me too, I like newt but would go for Rick {either Rick but the Texas gubberner got off to such a bad start that he is burned toast}.
Rupaul is my preference compared to Ron Paul.
“Thats nice but Romney is kicking his...” - Leep
Haha..I was trying to fire up the troops.
So, how do we go about it? Ask both of them to come together and decide? Or,appeal to Dick Armey?
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