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To: elvis-lives

Look, this sentiment of “Don’t make them mad at us, or they will run independent and guarantee an Obama win” is just plain appeasement folks.

I’ve heard this same garbage way back during the Dole Campaign.

It’s primary season - NOW is the time to fight, and fight HARD for a TRUE Conservative, not some anti-Semitic conspiracy crackpot and Ruling Class Crony being foisted on us.

How does one apply the 11th Reagan Commandment when you have candidates running who ARE NOT TRUE REPUBLICANS??? Are we going to deliberately submit our Conservatism to defeat over fears that the crackpot might run third party or we might not get scraps front eh Ruling Class Table if Mittens wins?

Look, Ron Paul will probably run third party when he loses the GOP nomination. His mob-zombie cultists are already urging that course of action on their boards. Ron Paul IS NO Republican and he is NO Conservative. He runs on our ticket because that is the only way a libertarian can win elections.

As for Mittens, did we learn nothing from 2008? If you are going to run a Ruling Class liberal against a Marxist, the greater Big Government Leftist is going to win it hands down. That’s why the media and the regime are busy trying to convince America that Obama fears a Romney nomination, when the opposite is true. In a bid between two Statists - the greater Statist is going to win.

Them is just facts folks.

Screw appeasement. Screw compromise. Fight dammit!

We either fight now for SOMEONE who has a shred of Conservatism and consistency to our cause - or we surrender to those who honestly want Conservatives silenced, marginalized and rendered irrelevant. That is what Paulistinians will do, that’s what Mitten’s crew will do.

Sheesh, why even have a primary if we’re supposed to lie in fear of ‘offending’ other candidates’ followers? If I had to guess, a chunk of Paulistas would vote for Obama anyway if their vaunted political savior is not on the ticket, and it’s possible a lot of Mitten’s supporters might too.

It’s primary season, full throttle, engines ahead full, fight for a Conservative and damn the consequences. We can worry about patching things up after the convention.


109 posted on 01/04/2012 1:25:05 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

Do you realize this is the year 2012?

Do you realize how much the demographics of this country have changed since the Bob Dole campaign when Gen X’ers were in high school? Millennial and Gen X voters are a much larger share of the electorate: 30 percent of voters in Iowa. There are more Independent voters. There are far more minorities.

Look at it this way: Pat Robertson and his Christian Zionist followers changed the Republican Party in the 1980s. That was 23 years ago. America is a different place now.

Once again, the people who calling Ron Paul a “kook” and a “crackpot” because of his opposition to starting an expensive, unnecessary war with Iran for theological reasons - those people are the minority, those people are nowhere near the center of the electorate, the country outside the Jerry Falwell/700 Club milieu is EXHAUSTED with endless foreign wars.

Apparently, the message hasn’t been sent: Newt Gingrich lost Evangelicals to Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus. He was actually destroyed by Ron Paul and Mitt Romney in the Iowa causes. That happened in one of the most Evangelical states in America.

I’m telling you it happened because of the endless war/endless debt issue. Just look at W’s spectacular collapse into the 20s between 2006 and 2008.

The people who were diehard supporters of Bush in 2008 at the height of his unpopularity are an even smaller share of the electorate in 2012. There is no path to victory in a general election for a Republican candidate who wants to start another war with Iran.


112 posted on 01/04/2012 1:38:24 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: INVAR

“It’s primary season, full throttle, engines ahead full, fight for a Conservative and damn the consequences. We can worry about patching things up after the convention.”
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Eveyone agrees that we have to nominate a conservative but you are treating potential votes as though they are an enemy. That is music to Obama’s ears. You are helping him keep the factions at each other’s throats.

Well. There is always the House and Senate.


114 posted on 01/04/2012 1:45:31 PM PST by elvis-lives
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