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To: INVAR

Do you realize this is the year 2012?

Do you realize how much the demographics of this country have changed since the Bob Dole campaign when Gen X’ers were in high school? Millennial and Gen X voters are a much larger share of the electorate: 30 percent of voters in Iowa. There are more Independent voters. There are far more minorities.

Look at it this way: Pat Robertson and his Christian Zionist followers changed the Republican Party in the 1980s. That was 23 years ago. America is a different place now.

Once again, the people who calling Ron Paul a “kook” and a “crackpot” because of his opposition to starting an expensive, unnecessary war with Iran for theological reasons - those people are the minority, those people are nowhere near the center of the electorate, the country outside the Jerry Falwell/700 Club milieu is EXHAUSTED with endless foreign wars.

Apparently, the message hasn’t been sent: Newt Gingrich lost Evangelicals to Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus. He was actually destroyed by Ron Paul and Mitt Romney in the Iowa causes. That happened in one of the most Evangelical states in America.

I’m telling you it happened because of the endless war/endless debt issue. Just look at W’s spectacular collapse into the 20s between 2006 and 2008.

The people who were diehard supporters of Bush in 2008 at the height of his unpopularity are an even smaller share of the electorate in 2012. There is no path to victory in a general election for a Republican candidate who wants to start another war with Iran.


112 posted on 01/04/2012 1:38:24 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: WilliamHouston; Absolutely Nobama; Old Sarge
"Once again, the people who calling Ron Paul a “kook” and a “crackpot” because of his opposition to starting an expensive, unnecessary war with Iran for theological reasons..."

The only "theological" reasons for starting a war are those inherent in the "reasoning" of Armanidinnerjacket and his mullahs.

The reasons for stopping a crazed madman armed with nuclear weapons need not have their roots in any theology of ours. Survival instinct will do just fine.
115 posted on 01/04/2012 1:45:39 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: WilliamHouston
Oh great, I get to refute freshman-level poly-sci idiocy.

Do you realize how much the demographics of this country have changed since the Bob Dole campaign when Gen X’ers were in high school? Millennial and Gen X voters are a much larger share of the electorate: 30 percent of voters in Iowa. There are more Independent voters. There are far more minorities.

Wow. I heard the same thing, almost verbatim from an Obama drone in '08.

It really is uncanny how much alike the Paulistinians and the Obama drones sound. Do you folks share the same talking points bible?

Look at it this way: Pat Robertson and his Christian Zionist followers changed the Republican Party in the 1980s. That was 23 years ago. America is a different place now.

Yes, yes. We know. The "old" America is a thing of the past. The 'era of Reagan' is over and such stuff. We have even heard from the Obama Drones this same thing in regards to the fact that there is nothing wrong with Socialism either, and we should embrace it if we want to win any future elections.

Pretty sure my reply to such nonsense is: "Nuts".

Oh, and curious regarding this continuous bilge of reference to "Christian Zionists". I'm assuming this is what you Paulistas who read Stormfront and Personals from David Duke are pulling from as the reference, yes?

Once again, the people who calling Ron Paul a “kook” and a “crackpot” because of his opposition to starting an expensive, unnecessary war with Iran for theological reasons - those people are the minority, those people are nowhere near the center of the electorate, the country outside the Jerry Falwell/700 Club milieu is EXHAUSTED with endless foreign wars.

As always, the Ru Paul talking points are exactly that same as those found at Code Pink and other Anarchist/Pacifist Obama-supporting sites and pages.

Since Christian Conservatives (or Zionists as you referenced) are an obvious enemy to your ideological viewpoints, and to be blamed for losses to your candidate and the Ruling Class Establishment Candidate, why do you care on a Conservative forum if we distance and disparage your chosen political saviors and candidates? Why warn us against angering what you erroneously assert is the 'great center" if we are all just 'fringe warmongers'??

Apparently, the message hasn’t been sent: Newt Gingrich lost Evangelicals to Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus.

Wow, that wouldn't be because of Newt's known philandering and multiple marriages now would it? No! It's because Evangelicals (aka: Christian Zionists) know Ron Paul is near-divine and the only true Christian and Savior of liberty in this race./sarc.

I’m telling you it happened because of the endless war/endless debt issue. Just look at W’s spectacular collapse into the 20s between 2006 and 2008.

Right. And the media had nothing to do with that, nor the disgust Conservatives had for the runaway domestic spending. No - according to you Paulistinians, it was our 'endless wars' that create our debt - not the endless welfare spending.

Look, we're not listening to you Code Pink, Stormfront Paulistinians. You sound no different than the drones who pined for Obama.

There is no path to victory in a general election for a Republican candidate who wants to start another war with Iran.

I think NerObama will get us there sooner (he may have no choice, enemies always tend to strike weakness). But in regards to your statement - methinks it reminds of something Neville Chamberlain may have told Winston Churchill at one time in the late 1930's.

119 posted on 01/04/2012 2:43:14 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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