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We're Not Electing a Messiah
American Thinker ^ | November 25, 2011 | R. Clayton Strang

Posted on 11/25/2011 4:30:57 AM PST by radioone

No one is perfect. No one. Not a single one of us has led a completely blameless life. We've all said something that we wish we hadn't. We've all lied, cheated, or stolen. We've all done or said hurtful things. Imperfection is a reality of the human condition. We know and accept that we are flawed. We realize that our parents, brothers, sisters, friends, and neighbors are flawed. If we accept this as true, why do we expect more from our potential elected leaders?

Every day, you can turn on the cable news, or go to your favorite news or blog sites, and hear all about the Republican presidential candidates and how imperfect they are. We all know about the sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain. Most agree that these charges have probably been completely fabricated. That being the case, we are then subjected to constant criticism of his campaign's handling of these allegations. Now we get to hear all about his flubbing of a question on Libya. The mainstream media has force-fed us clips of Rick Perry having a bit of a brain freeze during a debate. We know all about Newt Gingrich's past marital problems. He appeared in an ad with Nancy Pelosi, and he's criticized Congressman Paul Ryan. We hear these attacks daily from both sides of the aisle. These stories are designed to convince us of something that we should already know: no one is perfect!

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; gingrich; hermancain; romney
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To: ez

Interesting ez. I am genuinely curious: if you disqualify Huntsman on climate change, why do you not disqualify Gingrich for the same reason? Perhaps, it was Huntsman’s attitude? It certainly can’t be a policy difference between the two, can it?


61 posted on 11/25/2011 5:43:15 AM PST by Tredegar (Huntsman 2012 - Qualifications, Experience and Expertise, MATTER)
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To: ez
Hey calm down man...I agree with you!

Yes seriously. Your "Bill Clinton" slur is despicable. There's nothing wrong with asking that kind of question in order to clarify what people mean, if the statement has more than one possible interpretation.

In this case, it could be that someone is using the "no one is perfect" argument to excuse something bad about a favored candidate, OR it could mean that we should stop concentrating on minor defects (because if we look for them, for sure we will find them) and concentrate on the overall calibre of each candidate. Some will be stronger than others on some issues but not on others. None will match our own opinions perfectly. Its all a question of finding the best match - i.e. the candidate with the most opinions we agree with and the minimum number of contrary ones that we can live with.

62 posted on 11/25/2011 5:43:32 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: napscoordinator

Oh please - GMAFB - if you were not happy with those running because they dont meet your purity tests - why didnt you ruin in the primary to get the nod?

And who is your choice? Tell me thwe perfect 10/10 Saint you are for who has even a remote chance at winning?


63 posted on 11/25/2011 5:44:12 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Vanders9

Good for you. You’re being realistic. I, sometimes even change my mind regarding strategy, and that’s what we’re largely talking about here. I think almost all of us here on FR want government out of our lives, a thriving economy and a protection of our lives and liberties. We disagree on the best way to get there.


64 posted on 11/25/2011 5:44:55 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ez
. Did Newt endorse Dede Scozzafava for Congress? Yes he did. Did I agree with it? No I didn't? Is Newt better than Obama for President. Yes he is. Would I rather have Newt or Obama? Newt. Should I go on FR and try to convince everybody Newt is a scumbag? No I shouldnt. Why? Because it strengthens Obama. Now you try it...

Now, let's not pretend there are not other candidates in your equation. Is Newt a Beltway insider who has stabbed conservatives in the back? Yes. Is Newt shilling for amnesty? Yes. Does Newt understand limited federal government? His actions make that highly doubtful.

Are there other GOP candidates without those serious warts? Darn tootin. So they should be ahead of Newt in any consideration of the best anti-Romney for conservatives seeking to change the Beltway political machine for the better.

65 posted on 11/25/2011 5:45:13 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: napscoordinator
We have three incredible candidates in Bachmann, Cain and Santorum.

Can you then please explain why all three of your candidates are in the bottom tier. Use an extra sheet of paper if you need more room.

66 posted on 11/25/2011 5:45:13 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: presently no screen name

Strike Romney out?

Yes, I fully agree with you. I guess I was just being overly-polite there.


67 posted on 11/25/2011 5:45:44 AM PST by Tredegar (Huntsman 2012 - Qualifications, Experience and Expertise, MATTER)
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To: GlockThe Vote

And who is your choice? Tell me thwe perfect 10/10 Saint you are for who has even a remote chance at winning?

Thanks for asking. My choices in order are Cain, Bachmann, Santorum and NOBODY ELSE!!!!


68 posted on 11/25/2011 5:45:46 AM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: ez
Can you then please explain why all three of your candidates are in the bottom tier.

Cain is botton tier? That's rich. I see your sense of denial is not limited to Newt's call for border security.

69 posted on 11/25/2011 5:46:10 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ez

Can you then please explain why all three of your candidates are in the bottom tier. Use an extra sheet of paper if you need more room.

That is total BS. Cain is at the top for one thing. Bachmann will probably win Iowa which will raise her to the top. Santorum doesn’t have the numbers or support so I give you that. However, I will keep Santorum so that if principles occur in some folks, they will find him a great conservative.


70 posted on 11/25/2011 5:48:45 AM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree. Once people start living deliberately and prayerfully, you can live almost “perfectly” meaning no lies, no breaking the commandments, no stealing. Humans are not just pinballs in a machine of life, we can choose acting honorably or dishonorably.


71 posted on 11/25/2011 5:51:44 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: dirtboy

No, I fully expect Newt not to do what I would want him to on immigration. I believe in securing the border with troops, penalizing buisnesses who hire illegals, deporting any illegals who are detected, and no citizenship EVER for a person who entered illegally. Newt will not cater to my ideas on immigration and I would fully expect him to do what Reagan did.
BUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE (emphasis added) I think Newt is the best person in the field of eight to run America. In fact, after Newt I would have a hard time picking a “big picture” candidate because they are all so far behind him in intellect and knowledge.
Now lets have a look at your BIG JUICY BRAIN!!!


72 posted on 11/25/2011 5:51:54 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: radioone

Since the initial premise of this piece is so glaringly false - that conservatives are demanding perfection, a messiah - all of its conclusions are of course utterly wrong.


73 posted on 11/25/2011 5:52:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Newt Gingrich: The go to guy when you're down to the bottom of the bottom of the barrel...)
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To: radioone
I will not vote for someone who has demonstrated they have no moral principles and/or supports an issue that is contrary to my beliefs. To do so would be tacitly supporting immorality.
74 posted on 11/25/2011 5:53:01 AM PST by plsjr (<>< ... HIS will be done! (http://NewSpring.cc/webservice - Biblical Nourishment))
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To: freedomfiter2

Newt is a selfish narcissist with ethical and honor problems. He lives his life as if he is the center of the universe


75 posted on 11/25/2011 5:54:21 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ez

It’s just the logical extension of the “nobody’s perfect” argument.


76 posted on 11/25/2011 5:55:10 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Tredegar

Huntsman insulted me when he told me what I should believe based on “science” like I was some sort of unthinking luddite who was supposed to accept what I was told. Tye irony is, it is HE who is accepting theories like a luddite when they have not been proven true, but have beem proven to generate millins of dollars for the people propagating them.
Newt did not insult me. He did accept the status quo, though I don’t know if he really believed it or was forced to moderate his views by a relentless attacking media.


77 posted on 11/25/2011 5:55:34 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: napscoordinator
I agree. I'm so sick of the latest meme that the Repubs have not “ready-for-prime-time” candidates. Compared to who?
78 posted on 11/25/2011 5:55:46 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (A lie told over and over again is still just a lie and the one telling it a liar.)
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To: Biggirl

Cain’s still my man.


79 posted on 11/25/2011 5:56:23 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: ez
BUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE (emphasis added) I think Newt is the best person in the field of eight to run America. In fact, after Newt I would have a hard time picking a “big picture” candidate because they are all so far behind him in intellect and knowledge.

Yeah, DC is full of people with intellect and knowledge of how DC works. What has that gotten us?

And that is my point exactly with Newt. I don't see how electing a DC insider as president would be any kind of impetus to change how DC works. Newt has shown me no sense of being constrained by principles, be those principles marital or Constitutional. Any conservatism he showed in the Nineties appears to have long been corroded away by his years spent since at the Beltway trough. I would vote for him over Romney, but he is my very last choice among the anti-Romney candidates, precisely because he does not offer any resistance to the pervasive Beltway mindset - instead, he embraces it.

80 posted on 11/25/2011 5:57:40 AM PST by dirtboy
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