Posted on 11/14/2011 11:34:43 PM PST by Kevmo
Why are you Rossi cheerleaders so opposed to legitimate, critical scientific discussion of Rossi’s invention?
BECAUSE IT’S A SCAM, AND YOU KNOW IT.
Got no problem at all with "legitimate, critical scientific discussion". But I "do" have a problem with someone who wants to REQUIRE me to re-calculate, re-format, and re-peat the information before he/she will "deign" to bless it with the caress of his/her baby blues. I'm neither his/her (nor your) student or employee.
You should actually TRY posting some "legitimate, critical, scientific discussion".....you might be surprised at the response.
But continuously repeating "it's a scam", "Rossi is a crook", "Rossi has a fake degree" is NOT "legitimate, critical SCIENTIFIC discussion".
I’m touched, I thought you had me on ignore.
H3 on the moon is cleaner and a hell of a lot closer.....
Terrestrial nickel and producible hydrogen are almost infinitely cheaper when compared to either of the endeavors listed above.
I don't think has been proven to be a sure thing you can actually find and process/separate meaningful quantities of he3 from the lunar regolith. As for Titan, that sounds like you would need a space elevator to make the earthing of millions of tons of hydrocarbons fuels even remotely doable. Not to mention findinf, retrieving and transporting them.
Oh man, I detect a new urban legend coming...Fusion in your mouth and Pop Rocks add Coke and you can level your town!
He was robbed by Edison. Edison told Tesla that if he could increase the efficiencies of his generators and motors, he would give Tesla a $50K bonus. When Tesla succeeded, Edison weaseled out and said Tesla didn't understand American's sense of humor. Tesla quit and went to Westinghouse.
You might say Tesla was wrong or is lying but Edison was not exactly a Saint, ask G. Melies about that. He put all his money into a movie called, "A Journey to the Moon". Edison's techs paid a projectionist to allow him to copy the print and he played it in America and G. Melies didn't make a cent of profit. Classy move. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Trip_to_the_Moon
Oh man, I detect a new urban legend coming...Fusion in your mouth and Pop Rocks add Coke and you can level your town!It's true! It's true!
My cousin knew someone who's brother's best friend blew the top of his head right off!
Did either Melies or Tesla sue Edison?
Melies died broke, he expected to make is money off distributing his movie in America but since Edison beat him to it there went one source of money, however, WIKI has this: Le Manoir du diable (1896). A print of the film was acquired by Thomas Edison,
I've heard, seen and read in more than one place that the film he ripped off was, "A trip to the Moon".
Maybe WIKI needs better proofreaders or the story is so esoteric, few read it.
The above makes you seem quite the pompous ass. You seem to feel that WW is somehow required to serve you. How so? You are the one, among quite a few other flat-earthers, whose only contribution here is....well, you have no actual contribution that I can see. You are among the group bleating that Rossi has not provided you with any proofs (as if he has some obligation to do so). Well, the same goes for you, friend, where are your proofs that his claims are bogus? Wonder Warthog keeps trying to steer you to posted testing data. You answer him, repeatedly, with statememts like the above.
No matter, by all means, continue trolling, which is what many of the flat-earthers do on these e-cat threads, to one extent or another. I do not know the truth of it but we shall all know soon enough if this process and these devices are some very eloborate scam or if they will cheaply supply a significant portion of the world's energy requirements.
Aside: The funny thing is that HVDC is a lower-loss transmission method with losses of only ~3% per 600 miles. No need for step-up transformers, no parasitic capacitance problems. Of course, we’re talking voltage in the thousands of volts, versus Edison’s day.
I don't think there was a legal contract between Edison and Tesla either, and they later became business competitors, so who knows what accusations were made, and which ones were true.
Regardless, Tesla still got his big chance with Westinghouse and lost all the money. That's why I have doubts about Tesla being ripped off in the big scheme of things. It's too bad he didn't keep his focus on inventing, rather than competing with Edison in business. Tesla's bizarre behavior didn't help either.
More pompous ass talk. I don't believe you take yourself that seriously, Sherlock! lolol
PS Not trying to start a pissing contest but you simply make people roll their eyes. Have a good day, friend.
Has anyone ever operated an E-Cat for an extended period of time? Say, till it stopped operating for some reason yet to be determined? If yes, is there data?
Some observations. The calorimetry appears to be generally awful. I'd throw right out all of the phase change ones simply because you can have non-phase change measurements that aren't subject to dispute. That still leaves experiments where the excess energy relative to the input is interesting without having taken a detailed look at the possible stored energy. A detailed look is possible since that data is provided. Better heat measurements would be nice.
On a PR note, I'd lose all arguments of the form "how could your fool n scientists". As a scientist I would say that we are fooled pretty damn easily as a class. Nature is subtle, not deceptive and we aren't inclined to look for the lie. If I were an investor and could send one guy to examine the apparatus it would be the magician Penn Gillette. I'd tag along too of course, it's Italy.
Another thing I'd lose is the Conan-Doyle quote. When I have actually found myself in that situation in the past, having though I'd eliminated the possible, it was usually a failure of imagination. The more common error is to fail to see a possibility as existing at all and thus miss it.
Generally I'd avoid all appeals to authority as a form of argumentation. Some of the data looks pretty good. What is needed is more and better data to make the case. I trust the guys currently running the independent tests to do them honestly. Cases of individuals committing scientific fraud occur often enough that I have personally seen more than one. Groups of three I haven't seen or heard of yet so I am in principal happy with three guys doing independent testing. Most likely they are not colluding. Are there any plans to do more tests with better calorimetry?
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I have actually been paid more than once by more than one company to analyze new technology. Numeric analysis of the latest and best data is possible and would take 2-3 days of hard cranking to do it right. Based on about 8 hours of serious reading of the data presented if I were working for a serious investor I would recommend hiring a technically savvy magician to evaluate the apparatus.
I might crank the numbers on the latest experiment, but it really is 20 hours work to determine if they really have something from the data presented. Any freep who wants a piece of the heavy lifting is more than welcome to freepmail me.
One of the things Tesla was working on was the wireless transmission of power. (This matter is supposedly in dispute) His Wardenclyffe Tower was supposedly being built for wireless transmission or radio. When his investors found out that he planned on creating wireless un-metered power, his backers cut off funding.
Interesting read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower
Despite Tesla's serious eccentricities, he was quite the genius.
There is a story about him working on an electric car. The story goes that the car's designer had everything ready but didn't have the power source. So, he took Tesla to the equivalent of the local Radio Shack. He bought some parts and when the device was finished it was a small box with what looked like two copper rods sticking out plus the connection to the car's motor. Tesla is said to have pushed in the rods and said, "we have power" and the car ran. If you've ever read Atlas Shrugged" it sounds like the power system John Galt designed.
Now, I'm going from memory so take it for what it's worth.
Pointing out that Rossi has a scam degree is indeed legitimate and critical discussion, if not directly scientific. I do hope that you have finally acknowledged and personally come to terms with the fact that your guy Rossi is pushing fraudulent academic credentials. As long as you agree that this is the case, I suppose I could see fit to stop beating the fake degree drum...
>> “Would it mean you think this is a chemical reaction?” <<
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Definitely not.
Chemical reactions do not produce new elements. It just means that producing copper is not a very energetic fusion reaction. Of course, other elements were also produced. This needs some serious investment into research to find out exactly what is happening.
The author is a freeper. But he doesn’t seem to post much.
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