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Posted on 11/01/2011 7:53:42 PM PDT by bullypulpit
That's your prerogative.
But may I suggest that you concede your failure to be persuaded of Cain's innocence is based solely on your gut instinct, because you have zero evidence that the contemporary process that exonerated him was insufficent to determine the true facts, or that the process was corrupt?
This is what I mean as I've been using the term "celebrity crime" mentality on this thread. It's become the social norm -- flakked by the nihlist Left -- for people to think they can understand and evaluate the evidence in a case -- which evidence, by the way, they have never seen and may only have LSM reports on which to rely -- better than the fact-finders (juries and judges) and the appellate courts that actually heard the witnesses, saw the physical evidence, heard the comprehensive legal arguments (not bungled Cliff Notes in the press).
Hence, people who have never served on a jury of a murder trial, have not heard one witness' testimony or read one brief, etc. sit around looking at their navel and saying "I think Casey Anthony is guilty/innocent," "I think Amanda Knox is innocent because she's good-looking," "I think so-and-so should/should not get the death pentaly because of something I read in the NYT."
That's just embarrassing on its face.
Sure, have opinions about whatever you want. But at least concede all you're going on is a gut feeling based on extremely limited and probably highly biased information.
I mean: exactly no one writing about these cases in the medio or blabbering about them on tv have, um, read the briefs and reviewed the evidence that was before, say, the United States Supreme Court when it made its ruling.
I see nothing in the Cain situation that is out of the ordinary in regard to these types of cases, nor do I see anything that calls into question the process that addressed the complaint at the time and which completely exonerated Mr. Cain.
I do see some complainers who took the money and ran, rather than taking their chances in court. And I do know that this is often the route companies take once someone self-identifies as a false complainer or a hypersensitive ninny.
statues = statutes
Apologies to Venus de Milo.
I like toast. So long as it isn’t burnt.
He’s crawling his way up a bit in the polls. If people begin to realize that being an amateur with no experience isn’t actually a positive attribute for the leader of the free world, Perry will be one of the candidates who gets a second look.
"My name is Elmer J. Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht."
Elmer, why did you choose “buccaneer81” as your screen name?
This was investigated 20 years ago and found baseless, so the Cain bashers really ought to drop it.
You RINOs are heading for the boneyard but you're too arrogant to realize it.
“Perry isn’t perfect, but having seen his record over a decade, I see that he is quite good at being an elected leader in the public domain.”
Oh well...by the way, did you see the latest polling out today. Two of the polls were taken yesterday. Seems that Cain is picking up steam thanks to the Perry trick.
What really sucks for Perry is that he has effectively FINISHED his political career in Texas also. You can try to deny it, but I’ll sure to ping you when he says he not running for re-election in 2014, and when the legislature hands him his head in 2013.
Why would he run in 2014 anyway?
As to polling, I predicted his poll numbers in the primary would go up. People who support a candidate rally around them when they are attacked. The question is whether his polling numbers in head-to-head with Obama will go up or not.
you introduced yourself as Elmer Fudd, I was just asking why you used a different screen name.
Or was your “elmer fudd” something completely different and juvenile?
This is the thread I was referring to ...
By placing it in quotation marks I was attributing the attitude (that of delusion) to you.
“The question is whether his polling numbers in head-to-head with Obama will go up or not.”
We’ll find that out a year from now. As of now, even to Democrats this has to look like a TOTAL SMEAR, so I don’t worry about it - actually I like it so far, as it helps Cain.
Now if we find out that he’s some kind of sexual pervert, then all bets are off. But so far you have one, maybe two legitimate accusations, and then others piling on without ANY evidence beyond hearsay.
“Also, this puts those students on a track towards citizenship.”
So you admit that Perry favors amnesty for illegals ? Thank you, that’s more honest than most Perry supporters are on this issue. Conservatives who DO NOT support amnesty and who ARE NOT for Open Borders should not support Perry, as he has shown himself as an aid and abet to illegal activity.
Thank you...
“Texas makes a PROFIT off the illegals that enter college so it is not a taxpayer issue. “
Prove that. Running a university requires a LOT of money. The out-of-state-tuition rate per student is the normal rate and what it costs to attend. The difference between in-state ($5K) and out-of-state ($16K) tuition costs is over $11K per student per year. That money comes from the TAXPAYER. Perry STOLE that money from citizens and handed it over to ILLEGAL ALIENS. What is so hard to understand about that ?
As far as the veto goes, it doesn’t matter whether they WOULD HAVE overridden it or not. First, because we’ll never know, since Perry didn’t test their resolve. Second, you know as well as I do that the Executive office lets the Legislature know where it stands on such issues well in advance, and it would not have passed the legislature with GOP support if Perry had not already expressed his own support. Third, because no LEADER should ever agree to something he knows is wrong just to be ‘popular’.
Trying to ‘blame’ the legislature for this bill would mean you think he is a weak Executive. So ... is he an Open Borders & Amnesty supporter, or ... was he just too weak an Executive to stop this Open Borders & Amnesty law ?
You’ll notice over 12,000 illegals took advantage of the Texas in-state tuition rate just in 2010.
Since there are only a fixed number of total seats available in state universities, that means the same number were unavailable for citizens.
Or did you think colleges just accept everyone who applies ?
Over 12K in 2010 alone.
There are never thousands of vacant seats in state colleges just begging for more students. Each illegal alien displaced a citizen. Your suggestion that those 12K+ citizens should have been shuffled off to their second- or third-choice schools to make space for illegal aliens is REJECTED.
In many cases, including my own, the only way for a student to afford college is if they can commute from home — so shuffling them off to a distant school is effectively denying them college. Not every school has a good program in your own field of study. In my case, the next closest school was over 100 miles away and would have precluded commuting.
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