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To: ventanax5
Eight year ago the United States made peace with Kaddafi,

At the point of a gun -- by threatening to blow his terrorist ass to hell if he didn't abandon his WMD program. That's the only language he and his Arab brethren understand. A "friend" or "ally", he wasn't.

...and now we have killed him.

Too bad he wasn't killed back in '86 at the Bab al-Azizia compound during Operation El Dorado Canyon. ...which Reagan ordered.

23 posted on 10/24/2011 3:47:30 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

I’m not defending him , I’m defending the agreement.


25 posted on 10/24/2011 3:59:57 PM PDT by ventanax5
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To: Mr. Mojo

By Ted Belman

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40676#comments

As readers of Israpundit know full well, I have been very critical of the West for its attack on Libya. I went so far as to suggest all the people and groups who are incessant in their attacks on Israel, are complicit or asleep when it comes to the war on Libya.

Today Robert E Kaplan called me to discuss certain happenings and he pointed out to me the writings of John Rosenthal who had written that

Actually, there are reasons to doubt Libyan responsibility for both the Berlin disco bombing and the Lockerbie bombing.
Re. the Berlin disco bombing, I think most Americans don’t realize that the bomber was in fact German. She was tried and convicted. She had been married to a Palestinian guy who is alleged to have had contacts with Libyan intelligence – though she was no longer even married to him at the time that she planted the bomb.

Re Lockerbie, the evidence for Megrahi’s – and by extension, Libyan – involvement is extremely circumstantial. One of the UN’s own official observers of the Scottish trial, Hans Köchler, has denounced the proceedings as a miscarriage of justice. (See here for related documents.) There is again a German connection – the suitcase containing the bomb was loaded onto a flight originating in Frankfurt – and it even appears that German authorities quashed leads that pointed elsewhere: namely, to Palestinian terrorists. See here, for instance. If one connects all the dots, it certainly seems plausible that Libya and Qaddafi were used as scapegoats and that “Uncle Sucker,” as you say, fell for it.

Rosenthal also wrote, A Political Court: The ICC, Gaddafi, and Libyan Rebel War Crimes

Last month, to much fanfare, the International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for Muammar al-Gaddafi, his son Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi, and Libyan military intelligence chief Abdullah Al-Senussi. ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo had filed an application for the warrants in May. Among those celebrating the court’s decision was, of course, the Libyan opposition’s National Transitional Council (NTC), which promised to assemble a special commando unit to arrest Gaddafi. The head of the NTC Executive Council, Mahmud Jibril, even flew to The Hague to mark the occasion. The ICC website features a photograph of Moreno-Ocampo shaking hands with Jibril on the steps of the court.

Hardly anything could better illustrate the essentially political nature of the International Criminal Court. As is well known, Libyan government forces and alleged mercenaries in the pay of the Libyan government have been accused in media reports of deliberately killing civilians and committing other atrocities. These reports have served as the justification for western military intervention in Libya under the mantle of UN Security Council Resolution 1973. As is less well-known, there is extensive and virtually incontrovertible evidence of horrific atrocities committed by rebel forces in the territories under their control.

Indeed, the rebels’ contempt for the traditional laws and customs of war is so flagrant that the most telling evidence consists of videos that appear to have been filmed by rebels or rebel sympathizers themselves, either as “trophies” or for purposes of intimidation. One did not need to wait for Human Rights Watch tentatively to acknowledge abuses committed by rebel forces in four western Libyan towns, as it did last week. The video evidence of rebel atrocities has been readily available for months now, almost from the very start of the rebellion. The atrocities depicted in the videos include at least two beheadings, two public hangings, one lynching, several beatings, a summary execution of a group of up to 22 captured soldiers (the so-called Al-Baida Massacre), grotesquely inhumane and demeaning treatment of prisoners, and numerous other more minor violations of humanitarian law.

Diana West wrote

Timing is everything. Qaddafi was not killed in retaliation for his attacks on American servicemen in Berlin in 1986, or the downing of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie in 1989. He was not killed for his central role in the USSR’s terror networks going back to the 1960s and 1970s. He was killed after coming over to our side of George Bush’s “war on terror” in the final phase of a civil war in Libya in which his regime fought al Qaeda affiliates.
Horrific as it sounds, Qaddafi was killed because we and our NATO allies joined the other side — the al Qaeda affiliates.

In this article she quotes Lawrence Auster who wrote,

We are not a moral state; we are not a state under the rule of law. We are, as Solzhenitsyn said of the Soviet Union, an ideological state, a state that will do anything, violate any agreement, betray any ally or friend, tell any lie, cover up any truth, in order to advance its ideology and its power that is associated with that ideology.
In betraying and killing a foreign leader with whom we had made peace, we have taken on terrible karma. I tremble to think of how that karma will manifest itself against us in the years to come.

These three authors have been consistent in their assessment of the Libya attacks.They are all on the right. I don’t have to quote from Pepe Escobar a leftists, to disclose the reality.

Auster also attacks McCain for supporting this rape. Drudge also sees it our way as does Michelle Bachman (the only candidate to do so).

This is ominous for Israel.

As a side note, the West betrayed Libya for oil. Israel has found a vast amount of gas and oil in her international waters. Lebanon has challenged Israel’s ownership of these resources and she is backed by Turkey who is also threatening Crete in her joint exploration with Israel of her international waters. And guess what? America did not support Israel and Germany supports Turkey.

Beware the West.


28 posted on 10/24/2011 4:05:14 PM PDT by ventanax5
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