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The Meaning of ‘Occupy Wall Street.’ The Confusion on the Left and the Right
Pajamas Media ^ | October 7, 2011 | Ron Radosh

Posted on 10/08/2011 9:27:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

The “Occupy Wall Street” protests have created a major problem for the Obama administration and the Democrats. Undoubtedly, the occupation and protests have been encouraged by the constant refrain of the need to “tax the rich” and the calls to have “millionaires pay their fair share” that have come regularly from the White House. Having heard the president and his team engage in regular rounds of class warfare, we should not be surprised when scores turn out and act like taking over public space with signs attacking the wealthy will somehow lead to a resolution of the very real problems facing our country.

Nevertheless, as of Obama’s remarks yesterday, the administration has not decided whether to really stand behind the demonstrators. At most, what the president said is that “the protesters are giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works…we have to have a strong, effective financial sector in order for us to grow.” That is a rather soft comment that is not exactly a strong endorsement.

What the administration prefers is to leave overt support to the most radical of its supporters, like the socialist senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders, who told CNN that he stands behind them. Yet, as a shrewd report in the Wall Street Journal makes quite clear,

[M]any in the Democratic Party remain studiously silent on the growing crowds, wary of embracing a protest movement whose aims and goals are unclear, some Democratic congressional aides said Thursday. Moderate, middle-class swing voters, as well as wealthy Democratic Wall Street donors, may be turned off by the demonstrators’ rougher edges.

And those rough edges are there. Watch any of the video reports on MSNBC, which has virtually camped out there during its evening prime time coverage by the likes of Ed Schultz and the rest of its left-leaning team, and you will see a conglomeration of younger people in their 20s and 30s. There is also a strange amalgamation of leftover hippies from the ’60s and some who appear to be truly bizarre, as well as scores of extreme left radical groups from organizations as diverse as anarchists, members of the Industrial Workers of the World (whose heyday was in the early 20th century), and, of course, an assortment of every remaining communist and socialist grouplet with their own signs and propaganda.

There are also many younger highly tech-savvy people. CNN’s Erin Burnett interviewed one unemployed software engineer, who, as she pointed out, was sitting with his laptop Apple computer and other varied products from the late Steve Jobs’ company. Dan, who seems to be a nice young man, was asked by Burnett whether he included Apple among the corporations he was protesting. Surprised by the question, Dan answered that their “design is elegant.” Undoubtedly, he seems unaware that Apple trades at close to $400 a share on the very stock market he is protesting.

Writing at the New York Post, columnist John Podhoretz noted that Steve Jobs did more than the Obama administration and its stimulus ever did to create jobs, and that rather than the “collective action” that the president says will save America, it was the business acumen of Jobs, a single individual and visionary who had the power and took the effort to build and rebuild a company on his own initiative, that truly helped the country. As Podhoretz points out, “As of September 2010, 49,400 people in the United States (and probably twice as many abroad) work for Apple to create its products, sell them, deliver them and help people use them.”

Ironically, Jobs was a product of the counterculture of the ’60s, a man who swore by LSD, dated Joan Baez, and considered himself something of a liberal. But in his practice and his life, everything he did promoted the individual effort in which he built a company from the bottom up, beginning with a small investment on a borrowed $1500.00. His life was not spent engaging in “community organizing” and attacking banks and investors, but rather, using their funds and help to actually create a company whose small portion of the PC market made Apple one of the titans of Wall Street.

Now, the Democrats and the leftist movement are seeking to channel the protest into an organized form meant to pressure Obama to turn to the left. Led by Van Jones and company, they will do all they can to get the protestors to join forces with their operation at the Center for American Progress think tank. One remaining centrist Democrat, Matt Bennett of a group called Third Way, told the WSJ that he feared “a rowdy and inchoate movement that could alienate independent voters Democrats needed next year. ‘Swing voters are watching carefully, and we’re not convinced this kind of messaging will resonate,’ he said.” Indeed, those once Reagan Democrats in states like Michigan and Ohio, watching the antics of the “Occupy Wall Street” folks and the public sector unions joining them at the demonstrations, are likely to run helter skelter to the Republican Party each time they see a demonstrator carrying signs calling for revolution and socialism.

Hence the ambivalence of New York Senator Chuck Schumer, whose own tepid response is quite different from the endorsement from Bernie Sanders. Schumer, who supports the so-called millionaire tax, is also a favorite of the New York banks and the Wall Street community whose coffers fill Democratic campaign chests. Democrats, Schumer says, should not vilify the rich, even though he supports the current Obama policies that do just that. So in public statements, Schumer says: “‘Populism has sort of a negativity toward the high end, and that’s not our intention,’ he said. ‘Our intention is to do things to help the middle class.’” It might not be Schumer’s intention, but he and his party have played right into it, and by now, it is becoming more than difficult for the Democrats to pretend otherwise.

Schumer and others are obviously not too happy when they read reports like that in the WSJ on what it found in yesterday’s Washington, D.C. mobilization:

At a protest off Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C., it was unclear what the protesters stood for, much less if they’d accept political support from the Democratic Party. A man on stage beat on a drum while reciting free-verse poetry lines such as “Revolution is the solution,” and “then we can all sit down and have a lollipop.” The group at one point participated in Yoga stretches.

So where does our country go? Peggy Noonan notes the response of focus groups of middle-American women who shop regularly at Wal-Mart. Here’s what these women think:

Who are the culprits behind our economic calamity? “The banks and the people who took the loans.” But more the banks, because they had, as one woman put it, “the authority.” When they gave out the loans, people thought “it must have been OK.” People were “lured in” by the banks—don’t worry, home values will keep going up—which pocketed the fees and kept walking.

People lampoon the Occupy Wall Street movement as a bunch of marginal freaks, but these women from the heart of the country shared a basic resentment: The banks got bailed out, everyone else was left holding the bag.

Indeed, they have it right. The banks do bear responsibility. When a Republican candidate like Herman Cain says, as he did last night, that those without a job are responsible themselves for their plight because they could become employed if they try harder, and they should “go and get rich,” he only shows his ignorance and stupidity about the plight regular people are in. For once, a man I usually do not agree with, Ron Paul, answered Cain and showed he understands much more what the real issue is. Speaking to Wolf Blitzer, Paul showed that the wealth is going from the poor to the wealthy as a result of the bailout and a “flawed economic system.” The “average person who wants a job” is not responsible, Paul said. It is the result of dependence on “Keynesian economic policy.”

So the problem of the Left is not only that it presents as an answer to the problem a move towards a second stimulus that would fail and leave us further behind. It also wants to move beyond that towards a formal social-democracy based on the failed European model, one that would before long put America in the position Greece is in today. And who would then bail us out — China?

So I hope that Mitt Romney, who might be the Republican nominee, comes to understand the plight of regular people, and will turn Washington away from the self-defeating policies of the current White House occupant if he is elected our next president.

If he is not, and President Obama has another term in office, get ready for our future — and look at the riots and strikes occurring in Greece today.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: occupywallstreet; ows

1 posted on 10/08/2011 9:27:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
GOP needs to let these protest keep going.

Most of their demands are like Free College Loans, not popular among voters.

No credit reports, most Americans earn their so dead loser. Owed a Job at 20 per hour. Most Americas think these are spoiled brats who are afraid of work.

The major democratic problem are these cities are broke and these protesters are hurting them in the tax receipts.

Last and most important is they will not give to Obama, these guys know who is behind this and they don't like their families being targeted.

2 posted on 10/08/2011 9:34:44 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Kaslin

This is not a grassroots protest of anything. It was strategically designed by the Democrat operatives to take the heat off the President when the “S” is about to “HTF” with Obamacare, Soylndra, Fast & Furious, and all the other crimes that Obama and his cronies are neck deep in right now. These people were paid to protest or they are getting college credit for showing up. A few are there just to score some drugs.


3 posted on 10/08/2011 9:37:33 AM PDT by ImNotLying (Politicians and diapers should be changed often and for the same reason!)
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To: Kaslin

if these protests are the precursors of next year’s riot,

the soros-democrats have another think coming.

the average working class person detests this stupidity.


4 posted on 10/08/2011 9:49:14 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Kaslin

The “Occupy Wall Street free lunch bunch fail to understand it’s the left (Obama&Co.) that put us in a debt by trillions,the free ride can now be colored GONE.


5 posted on 10/08/2011 9:53:20 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

Our citizens endowed with high-melanin skin seem disproportionately un-represented among these Agitators for Communism. Wonder why?


6 posted on 10/08/2011 10:02:21 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: scooby321

At every turn the Marx in the Parks must be fused w/ the OccupyWH Marxist. They are the community agitator’s coalition!


7 posted on 10/08/2011 10:17:44 AM PDT by parisa
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To: Kaslin

Seems the protestors are to the Democrat party what the Tea Party is to the Republican party. They are calling out all who supported bailing out Wall Street greed, supporting war and tanking their future. Obama is their ‘RINO’ [DINO].


8 posted on 10/08/2011 10:21:39 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Kaslin
M]any in the Democratic Party remain studiously silent on the growing crowds, wary of embracing a protest movement whose aims and goals are unclear, some Democratic congressional aides said Thursday.

Haven't leftist aims and goals always been unclear? When they talk about why they are protesting, they make no sense whatsoever, like students who don't understand the subject matter, but try to repeat what the teacher said when it's time to take the test, and get it completely wrong.

9 posted on 10/08/2011 10:22:56 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Elsiejay

Maybe because the Agitators for Communism are useful idiots, while the blacks are not?


10 posted on 10/08/2011 10:24:00 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
...in his practice and his life, everything he did promoted the individual effort in which he built a company from the bottom up, beginning with a small investment on a borrowed $1500.00. His life was not spent engaging in “community organizing” and attacking banks and investors, but rather, using their funds and help to actually create a company whose small portion of the PC market made Apple one of the titans of Wall Street.

To honor Jobs - and how he lived his life - the protesters should be stripped of all Apple inspired computers, ipods, ipads, iphones etc...

11 posted on 10/08/2011 10:36:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: Kaslin

I think the perception of Wall Street is just the banks that received tax payer money, didn’t really say what they were going to use it for and we just kind of left it alone trusting them. It didn’t really do anything for the economy, and those 20 somethings that come out of university, with experience gained through internships as well as part time jobs are not able to get full time jobs to make ends meet. So the perception is, the big boys got bailed with no questions asked and everyone else can pretty much go screw themselves. The software engineer with the Apple computer is not being a hypocrite because Apple did not cause the financial problems we are having today.

It’s not really a movement against corporations, it’s more about accountability of the people in charge of those corporations that caused the problems in the first place. If the leaders of the banks screw up, then let them fail, don’t use tax payer money to somehow breathe new life into them. Instead, that TARP money was used to pay bonuses to people who were responsible for the current problems we have. Yes this movement does attract the fringe but you’ll see many more of these 20 somethings, freshly unemployed, who see no end in sight while sending out endless amounts of resumes. I mean at some point people give up. I know a few who have.

I bummed around looking for a job for 6 months after getting my Masters in Biotechnology from University of Pennsylvania. I am truly lucky that I found one in this shitty economy. So please don’t paint all of these 20 somethings as a bunch of lazy people with no focus. They’re placed in a precarious situation with no hope in sight.


12 posted on 10/08/2011 10:43:05 AM PDT by WisemanRAX
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To: scooby321
By and large these protestors don't own guns or know how to use them. The most they can do is cause traffic jams and take police away from policing.

If they are left to their own devices they might show up at the Democrat and Republican conventions. It might be '68 all over again. Which only bodes well for the Republicans.

13 posted on 10/08/2011 10:51:57 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Kaslin
” It might not be Schumer’s intention, but he and his party have played right into it, and by now, it is becoming more than difficult for the Democrats to pretend otherwise.”

In this Orderly Universe created by God the liars lies, however persuasive, begin to coil around him...

14 posted on 10/08/2011 11:27:50 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Except at RNC08 the protestors were assembling incendiary devices. Factor in as well potential infiltration by Islamofacist types, but then any use of a weapon will immediately be pinned on the Right (re: Moonbats still think Jared Loughner was getting dog whistle commands from Sarah Palin when he shot Congresswoman Giffords).
2012 will be a violent year. When the Left finally realizes they are losing, they will look to take it down in one last temper tantrum.


15 posted on 10/08/2011 11:32:00 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: WisemanRAX

“Instead, that TARP money was used to pay bonuses to people who were responsible for the current problems we have.”’

I think one reason the politicians were so quick to bail out the banks is because after the big crash people may have had more time and incentive to pull back to the macro view and figureout political culpability in all of this


16 posted on 10/08/2011 11:35:29 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
By and large these protesters don't own guns or know how to use them

One might reasonably conclude that the protesters are incompetent but useful idiots. It would be unwise to make that assumption about the protest organizers.

Violent suppression of conservative political opponents has already occurred in other venues [c.f Louisiana, Saint Louis, Los Angeles). The Left is very good at organized activities - including violent ones. The Government in most areas is heavily influenced by Leftists now, and is inclined to give such events a pass.

Feeling armed and righteous is an insufficient plan. Being part of the majority is also insufficient.

The faction that is best organized and supplied usually determines the outcome of any dispute.

17 posted on 10/08/2011 12:14:56 PM PDT by flamberge (Would you like fires with that?)
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To: flamberge
Today I rode a bike with some friends in CycLAvia in downtown Los Angeles. They cordoned off about seven miles of streets so that people could bike, walk, etc. The route went within a block of the protest. All we could see of the protest was a huge snarl of tents leading up a hill toward the protest site. Oh, and there were a few protestors who held signs along the bike path that said things like "Stop the Violence" (Note: even I believe that the banks that got handouts did wrong, but what they are stealing from the taxpayers is being done non-violently.)

In any case the few brave protestors who wandered among the bicyclists got little or no support. No one stopped. No one even rang their bike bells.

There are much greater things to worry about than these dufuses. America's youth is split into two major parts: the idiots who barely graduate, and the smart ones that are put on the gerbil wheel toward success from the time they are just one or two.

We have more to fear from the few effed up individuals that survive the gerbil wheel than the myriads of dufuses that make up 'Occupy Wall Street'. Those individuals will be the financial "geniuses" of the future who will eff everything up ten or twenty years from now just when we're recovering from the current mess.

18 posted on 10/09/2011 10:31:50 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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