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Gov Perry embraced President's Fox vision of a North American Union in 2001
08/30/2011 | unseen1

Posted on 08/29/2011 10:53:20 PM PDT by unseen1

In Aug of 2000 President Fox laid out his vision for the future of North America.

ELIZABETH FARNSWORTH: Mexico’s president-elect, Vicente Fox, has spent the past week in Canada and the U.S. outlining his vision for a more integrated North America. Perhaps most provocative was his proposal to open the U.S.-Mexican border once the wage disparity between the two is narrowed. Fox spoke on the NewsHour last night.

VICENTE FOX: I’m talking about a community of North America, an integrated agreement of Canada, the United States, and Mexico in the long term, 20, 30, 40 years from now. And this means that some of the steps we can take is, for instance, to agree that in five years we will make this convergence on economic variables. That may mean 10 years we can open up that border when we have reduced the gap in salaries and income.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/latin_america/july-dec00/mexico_8-25.html

One year later Gov Perry embraced that vision in a speech:

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it.

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; fox; immigration; nau; obama; palin; perry
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You are correct. I watched the entire video....precisely because I suspected that what she said had been interpreted incorrectly.


61 posted on 08/30/2011 12:27:03 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: unseen1
So how could my name be popping up “bashing” him.

Not him specifically. Bachmann or whoever else you think is in the way for Palin to get in.

You remember 9/11? It stopped the open borders crowd in its tracks.

Yeah. It really stopped them. That is why we are still arguing over it today and the borders are totally unsecured. I asked also about your NAFTA issue. Do you suppose we should end it and which candidates are advocating ending it?

62 posted on 08/30/2011 12:28:01 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: unseen1

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576518371960016328.html?mod=e2tw


63 posted on 08/30/2011 12:29:03 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SoConPubbie; comebacknewt; rjeffries

Do listen to the tape. Here is the quote you will hear:

Palin: Still listening to the debate and the discourse and the GOP lineup right now, and still looking for that candidate whom I can put my heart and soul behind to support, if I don’t see that person here in short order I would be willing to put my name forward in the name of service, I’m impressed with the lineup

Meghan (interrupting): Have you not found him or her yet?

Palin: no, I’m impressed with the lineup, but there’s still is quite a long process, there will be a lot of comings and goings with this lineup,

Note she did NOT say there was “no one in the race she could support”. She said she was still listening, and looking for, that candidate she could support. She is evaluating the current and possible future crop of candidates. It’s not just the person entering the race, she wants to see how they do. It is absurd to pretend she said she had rejected the current candidates, since she didn’t say that at all.


64 posted on 08/30/2011 12:29:48 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SumProVita

fair enough. I tend to look at 9/11 as throwing a wrench in the open borders crowd plans


65 posted on 08/30/2011 12:30:19 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1

OK, just so long as you aren’t advocating a president ignore the laws that you think are absurd. because if they can ignore the laws you don’t like, they can ignore the laws you do like. And if they have that power, they are likely to use it for many things you don’t like.

There are a lot of people to either credit or blame for NAFTA, but Rick Perry isn’t one of them.

I like free trade, but then again, I’m not a Ron Paul supporter.


66 posted on 08/30/2011 12:31:57 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: unseen1

“I tend to look at 9/11 as throwing a wrench in the open borders crowd plans”

And thank goodness! Though a lot of states and private citizens are working on securing that border, we need a president who will use the full power of that position to solidify it.


67 posted on 08/30/2011 12:33:23 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: unseen1

I apologize, I forgot the sarcasm tag.


68 posted on 08/30/2011 12:34:13 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: unseen1

Here are some recent Texas laws signed by Perry. Note particularly the voter ID law. Illegal aliens cannot obtain the required ID and will not be able to vote.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/New-state-laws-take-effect-on-Thursday-2145235.php


69 posted on 08/30/2011 12:34:42 AM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: SumProVita

fair enough. I tend to look at 9/11 as throwing a wrench in the open borders crowd plans


70 posted on 08/30/2011 12:35:06 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: SumProVita

I could never find a transcript, so I finally sat down and wrote one by listening to it over and over.

I had to do that with Greta’s interview with her as well, after so many people mis”quoted” her by writing an interpretation of her words.

I like quoting Sarah Palin, because she often makes sense, and it sometimes protects you from being attacked.


71 posted on 08/30/2011 12:38:16 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SumProVita
Ohhh good grief....not THIS again....

Yes, it's inconvenient that his past actions keep coming back to haunt him. Forgive me for finding these two things hard to overlook: His endorsement of instate tuition for illegals, and free access to US roads for Mexican trucks. How many times do US citizens have to storm the capitol with pitchforks before the politicians stop trying to cram this stuff down our throats?

72 posted on 08/30/2011 12:38:54 AM PDT by giotto
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And with that, I’m out. It’s like 3:30am here. And it seems all I ever post to anymore are Perry threads. I’m really tired of it.


73 posted on 08/30/2011 12:39:58 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: giotto

Do a little more research, please.


74 posted on 08/30/2011 12:43:21 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

same here late


75 posted on 08/30/2011 12:44:13 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: SumProVita

Did you read the whole thing? One pandering sentiment after another. The problem is we have not ready for prime time Bachmannm, we have Mitt whom no conservative could want to vote for and we have Perry who from everything i read is in the same class as Jorge Bush when it comes to illegals.
Every post about Perry leads to the exact same thing. Those on one side who i suspect are more anyone but Mitt and those who have drawn a line in the sand about illegals.
Fact is we have no good choices.


76 posted on 08/30/2011 1:47:56 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Nothing about this article but we have a president today who ignores laws he doesn’t like, This is reality is it not? Your first paragraph describes obama to to T.


77 posted on 08/30/2011 1:52:39 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

Why not Rick Santorum?


78 posted on 08/30/2011 1:52:41 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: unseen1
Lots of people said things in August of 2000 that they'd be embarrassed about now. Remember all the talk about the Internet sector going through a healthy correction, after which it'd come roaring back bigger and stronger than ever?

I've actually found an FR thread from 2002 or so with several commenters attacking Rep. Issa - yes, the same Rep. Darryl Issa - as a pro-Muslim sympathizer. I'm sure those posters would be embarrassed to recall their words now, given Rep. Issa's more recent doggedness in exposing frauds.

Now to my point. Has Gov. Perry shown any embarrassment, or expressed any regret, about those words he said back in the heady days of August 2000?

79 posted on 08/30/2011 2:02:56 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: danielmryan
Sorry, I made a mistake. Perry's speech was made a year later, in 2001. It was Fox's speech that was made in 2000.

Still, the question remains. Back then, there was less anger over illegal immigration because it was mostly seen as less trouble-causing then than now. Has Gov. Perry expressed any regret or shown any embarrasment?

80 posted on 08/30/2011 2:08:11 AM PDT by danielmryan
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