What can Issa and the House do to move this along rapidly..?
...Telepathic ping? Thanks...
So, what kind of group would do that? Could it be one of the drug cartels? Could it be a separate body of cartel related criminals actually "owned" by a cartel "organized crime commission"?
Even the Mafia didn't succeed at government penetration and they were more culturally aware of how that might be done in the United States.
More likely it's a political organization ~ maybe some leftover Nazi party guys (at a generation removed) down in Brazil, Paraguay or Argentina. Or, maybe the organization derives from the LEFT!?!?!?!? Like maybe these people are Commies.
Looking over the objective, public Obama Regime there are plenty of folks there with Communist party relationships ~ and right off hand I doubt anybody in that Regime has any Nazis in the stable.
So, let's say it's a Communist party organization element with its own command structure ~ maybe even a half dozen cells ~ one cell in each agency ~ with limited official communications among the cells.
I think they could pull it off until they got caught.
They just got caught!
Holder needs to resign. He’s a disgrace.
If a Republican were in office we would hear nothing but Gunwalker 24/7.
We keep saying that——but Got damnit it-—it is the truth,
We do not have a free press in this country. We have a DNC controlled press.
This thing is big enough to put Obama under the jail, but it is being ignored. Soon Issa will become tired of it and it will die. Obama knows it, Holder knows it, I know it, and the DNC media knows it, anyone thinking different is only fooling themselves.
The Media doesn’t report it because they want guns banned, just as Obama does.
When you kill God the Government becomes god, When you disarm the people the Government is no longer in the hands of the people, we are slaves.
Look around-—this is the agenda.
Barak Obama, in the White House, with an Executive Order.
Uh, no. That's the most palatable explanation for but only half the revolutionary communist modus operendi. To obtain a "dictatorship of the proletariat" one must disarm the bourgeois while arming the proles. See tag line.
While disarming Americans was the main objective, I wonder if another was to encourage the already ongoing collapse of Mexican society, leading to increased waves of illegal immigration and possible Commie takeover of Mexico?
The buck stops at the top.
Although the Illegal and Holder no doubt planned on a great ultimate political payoff from smearing legitimate gun owners and destroying the Second Amendment, there’s no logical reason to believe they did not plan on and receive a far larger immediate financial payoff from the Sinola (sp?) cartel in the form of contributions to the Illegal’s campaign and the DemonRat party.
Oh wait...he's not covering it at all --sorry...
There's probably a hot, big STORM somewhere.
Assistant Attorney General (Criminal Division) Lanny Breuer got a Power Point presentation on Fast and Furious.
July 28, 2011 Senior ATF, Justice officials ignored Mexico-based agents’ complaints, bragged about Fast and Furious successesGil and now-acting ATF attaché to Mexico Carlos Canino also told congressional investigators high-ranking ATF and Justice Department officials bragged about what they considered successes of Operation Fast and Furious. Officials they said included Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, who oversees the DOJ’s criminal division, and acting ATF director Ken Melson.
“Lanny Breuer says, yeah, there is a good case, there is a good case out of Phoenix,” Canino said of a meeting he and Gil had with Breuer and the U.S. ambassador to Mexico, Carlos Pascual.
Gil said Breuer was going to present the outcome of Operation Fast and Furious to Mexican authorities as evidence of a positive effort to stop weapons trafficking. Gil said Breuer said the ATF investigation “looks like it’s going to generate some good results and it will be a good positive case that we can present to the Government of Mexico as efforts that the US government is taking to try and interdict weapons going into Mexico.”
The National Scope of the Gunwalker Scandal. Lanny Breuer & four border state ATF SACs implicated in report. "Lions! And tigers! And bears! Oh, my!"Two months after the January 5, 2010 briefing, ATF headquarters hosted a larger, more detailed briefing. Not part of the normal Tuesday field ops briefings, this special briefing was dedicated to Operation Fast and Furious. David Voth, the Phoenix Group VII Supervisor who oversaw Fast and Furious, traveled from Phoenix to give the presentation. On videoconference were the four southwest border ATF SACs: Bill Newell in Phoenix, Robert Champion in Dallas, J. Dewey Webb in Houston, and John Torres in Los Angeles. (Emphasis supplied, MBV)
In addition to the usual attendees of the Tuesday morning field ops briefings (the Deputy Assistant Directors for Field Operations, including Bill McMahon, and Mark Chait, Assistant Director for Field Operations), Deputy Director William Hoover also attended. Joe Cooley, a trial attorney from the gang unit at Main Justice, also joined. After a suggestion from Acting ATF Director Ken Melson in December 2009, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer personally assigned Cooley as a DOJ representative for Operation Fast and Furious. Kevin Carwile, chief of the Capital Case Unit at Main Justice, may have also been present. According to Steve Martin, the inclusion of Main Justice representatives was unusual.
Gunwalker and Fast & Furious Updates: Holder, DOJ, FBI, Operation Castaway, ATFEmail Confirms ‘Gunwalker’ Known Throughout Justice Department The October 27, 2009 email from ATF Phoenix Field Division Special Agent in Charge (SAC) William Newell regarded a Southwest Border Strategy Group meeting that focused on Fast and Furious. It contained a laundry list of high ranking Justice Department officials that attended the meeting, including:
* Assistant Attorney General (Criminal Division) Lanny Breuer, * Kenneth Melson, Acting Director, ATF * William Hoover, Acting Deputy Director, ATF * Michele Leonhart, Administrator, DEA * Robert Mueller, Director FBI
Four other Justice Department directors or their representatives came from the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF), Bureau of Prisons (BOP), U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), and the Executive Office for United States Attorneys (EOUSA). The chair of the Attorney Generals Advisory Committee (AGAC) also attended the session. Their names were redacted in the released document. U.S. attorneys for all four southwest border states also attended...
Not no, but HELL NO!!!
It was to get traceable guns sold by US gun stores into the hands of the cartels, so they could be confiscated and used as proof that US gun stores were supplying the cartels, allowing the government to place strict controls on the legal ownership of guns.
Do I think that the people who came up with this crazy, manipulative, evil idea wanted those guns to be used to murder people, including Border Patrol agents? I certainly hope not. But I do believe that they didn't give a damn about the possible consequences, since they were "working for the greater good." And as Wayne LaPierre once said of the Clinton administration, the Obama administration was willing to accept a certain level of violence to accomplish their political ends, which is the eventual banning of the private ownership of guns in the US.
Mark