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To: jmaroneps37

I’ve been saying America is over for a while now. I’ll get flamed, but that is my take on things.

Yes, we need to keep fighting on that small chance that the middle-class liberals will wake up and become Conservatives, but I’m not banking on it.

KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT, but at the same time, I really belive the American experiment has ebbed and is inevitably sliding toward socialism.

Half of the voters are on the take, and that is the reason for my conclusion. They will accelerate voting themselves largesse from the public treasury. Many of them are women who will always vote for security over liberty. Not all women who vote that way are among the throngs of non-producing takers. There are many successful liberal women who continue to vote themselves into bondage if it means increasing apparent security.

Every person 40 years and younger has been through government schools that are mainly socilist and indoctrinated students into loving socialism. They don’t even teach US history in the schools anymore.

Add in a huge influx of non-assimilating immigrants who care only for their financial freedom but want socilized medicine and every other form of entitlement.

Add that up.

Add up all of the people on a government paycheck directly, add all the children successfully brainwashed in government schools, add in the unassimilated immigrants and illegals, and top that off with business leaders that don’t give a rats ass if they make their profits in the USA or abroad.

I added that up and I came to the inescapable conclusion that we have already passed the tipping point toward hard Socialism. It won’t be really long before we become Italy - maybe 2 full generations.

I won’t stop fighting but it is just a rear-guard delaying action now. The socialists have won. All they have to do is keep up the pressure and wait. Their diamond is baked into the cake.

Sorry to be pessimistic but I know where all this is going. We are screwed. They liberals screwed your great-grandchildren who won’t know but a fraction of your freedom or quality of life. Damn those liberals to hell all you want but you can’t change reality.

I get on my knees and thank the Lord I was born in 1958 and not later, and I knew the freedom and glory of America in its late days and not after the socialist take-over.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 12:08:26 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

It is not just individuals on the take.

Today, I got a surprise visit from an old friend. She works as a contractor for a large fast food corporation. In that capacity, she has to sit in on meetings where the nitty-gritty of their financial situation is discussed candidly. She has to grit her teeth and keep quiet as this client represents the majority of her income. The fast food conglomerate is delighted that the SNAP cards can be accepted at their stores. It means the difference between staying in business and not.

She is based in the NE and has many friends facing foreclosure. People looking for work are just getting the message that they need to forget about titles and perks and take any job that results in any income. These are mid-30-to-40-something people who have been CEOs, VPs, and top management. She knows too many people involved in short sales or foreclosures. The past year, crime has increased in her formerly nice neighborhood. Her boyfriend has 165 apartment units. He is lucky to get full rent, if any, from his tenants. She went on and on.

She travels a lot for work and also told me of places in Washington State and Oregon with large encampments of homeless/jobless. While the Skid Rows in the cities are black and Hispanic, the rural encampments are mostly white. She said that some places the municipalities are hauling in porta potties and generally trying to make sure things stay hygienic. There is nothing else they can do, because the situation is large and enduring.

She and her friends likely all voted for zerO. We have not discussed politics at all in the past 3 years, because I just am not up to having an argument with her. I have known her most of her life and value her as a person. But today, I was honest about my political views and our personal financial situation and she was in agreement with everything I said. The thing is, I am unsure if these young people will vote GOP and I can’t really blame them. They think that if the government benefits and employment are withdrawn or cut, things will totally collapse and quickly. So, I will guess they won’t vote at all or will reluctantly vote donk.

Just adding to your catalog of why we are over as America the way we all knew it. I am 15 years older than you and also grateful for what I experienced before 2008.


91 posted on 08/02/2011 12:53:28 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I’ve been saying America is over for a while now. I’ll get flamed, but that is my take on things.

You won't get flamed by me. I think you nailed it.

An electorate that could put a nothing like Zero in the White House pretty much means it's over. A break-up without a civil war is now my hope. If it takes war, this time I'd like to "get three million, instead of what we got". Take no prisoners; they can't be cured.

169 posted on 08/02/2011 2:58:04 PM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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