Posted on 07/27/2011 3:58:09 PM PDT by charlene4
Cpt. Pamela Barnett: Obama said that he visited Pakistan in 1981 in trying to boast his "international" experience. However, according to school records Obama was not attending Columbia University as he has said.
SO WHERE WAS OBAMA IN 1981????
Obama was most likely on an Indonesian passport when he visited Pakistan as the DHS and DOJ redact all records that point to him being adopted by Lo Lo Soetoro. Obama was in Pakistan when a murderous muslim ruler was in control of Pakistan and warring with the Soviet communists.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
Well, to think that his Asian sister could have come from a white woman and black man is kinda nuts.
Maya doesn’t look like Lolo Soetoro or Asian to me, but I think she does look a lot like Frank Marshall Davis.
Why is that kinda nuts?
I put it in the "indeterminate" category. If it is Bill Ayers, it's interesting, and it makes if highly unlikely that Barack didn't know who he was in 1983, but the photo is too grainy to give me warm fuzzies about a positive identification. The Frizzy hair and Glasses are the same as in the Known Ayers picture.
That is an interesting article. I've posted links to it several times on different threads. The links at the bottom of that article also contain interesting information. I personally find it impossible to believe that Obama wasn't heavily involved in those groups. Close Encounters is right.
I’ve seen versions of this photo that are a little (not a whole lot) clearer, and the clearer the picture is the more he looks like Bill Ayers.
At the time this photo would have been taken - likely Dec 1982/ spring 1983 - Bill Ayers was going to college at Bank Street College (about 2 blocks or .2 mile from Columbia University)
I can't speak for Dakkster, but I am only interested in finding out what the truth is, and at the moment I place a very high probability on that scenario. Let me explain.
Remember those Naked Pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham? Well I figured out those were taken After Thanksgiving and Before Christmas of 1960. At this time Stanley Ann Was Pregnant a few weeks give or take.
Frank Marshall Davis was a Jazz connoisseur. He was one of the first, if not THE first person to teach a College courses on Jazz Music. One of the record Albums in the picture is a famous Jazz album called "Cuban Fire." Another Record Album in a different picture is Nat King Cole. The record collection is quite extensive. Jack Cashill mentioned that according to documentation he discovered, Stanley Ann and her dad liked to stop over at Davis' house to listen to Jazz records. A man like Barack Obama Sr. would be unlikely to have such an extensive collection of Jazz records as appears in the photograph. He was having a difficult enough time just making expenses.
Frank Marshall Davis was also an Avid Photographer. He specialized in photographing nudes. (In his book "Living' the blues" there are almost two pages discussing his introduction to Photography and how much he enjoyed photographing Naked women, and how easy it was to get them to do it.)
The Decor, (Lamps, Figurines) while not specifically Afro-Centric, would be perfectly at place in a Black Family's household. I have been in many black family households, and they seem to have an affinity for Lions and Tigers and such. Also their is an extensive book collection visible in one picture. I cannot make out the titles, but they seem to be Hardbacks. Completely reasonable for a well educated man such as Frank Davis.
Then there is the fact of the Christmas tree with presents beneath it and a Christmas sign on the wall. It would be reasonable to assume that Muslim Barack Obama Sr. would not likely have a Christmas tree in his apartment, and judging by all the presents under the tree, it is more likely the tree of a family. Frank Davis had a wife and four children at this time. The Stylish "Stripper shoes" which Stanley Ann is wearing would very likely be the property of Mrs. Davis, as both her and Frank liked to "swing."
I'm leaving out some other lesser details, but Finally, what are the Odds that a young woman who is partial to black men, is posing for someone but not having sex with him? Especially when you consider that Frank had a lot of experience talking young girls into bed? I would argue that she was posing for her lover, and that lover was not Muslim Barack, but Far more likely to be Worldly Frank Davis. The Alternative is that she was Having Sex with Barack only, but innocently posing nude for Davis. I happen to find that theory unlikely. Remember, this posing occurred just a few weeks after she became pregnant. It may also be possible that she was having sex with both men.
Anyways, unless you know something I don't, I wouldn't be so quick to discount Frank as the daddy, because as near as I can tell, all the evidence that doesn't come from Barack Obama, tends to point toward Davis as the father, with Barack Sr. as the "Beard" to keep both Davis' wife and Stanley's Father from finding out they were having sex.
If you can poke a hole in this theory, i'm all ears. Apart from that, some of the lawyer types have been saying that according to American law, it doesn't make any difference who the father really is, it only matters who is the Father of the marriage. All children born to a married couple are legally presumed to be the offspring of the Husband of the marriage. Barack Obama Jr. might be in the peculiar position of actually HAVING an American father, but Still being disqualified as a Natural Born Citizen because of a quirk in American law which takes his natural father away from him! (As far as the legal system is concerned.)
Sorry, I just don't see this resemblance you are talking about.
I am completely unaware of Pastor Manning's Support for the truther movement. I have seen, and been emailed videos of him castigating Obama, and other videos where he explains what kind of girl Obama's mother was. I found them quite hilarious, because no one else will say such things so bluntly. I know a lot of people who have seen Manning's critiques of Obama and his mother, and have no notion of Manning supporting the truther movement.
Even if he does, as you say, support the truther movement, that does not make any of his commentary about Obama and his Mother less hilarious. In my life experience, I have found that many otherwise reasonable people will be found to have a bit of kookery about them if you talk to them long enough. In any case, i'm glad you made me aware of this. It is something I will have to keep in mind. I do however look at his webcasts more as entertainment than as a source of information.
“I can’t speak for Dakkster, but I am only interested in finding out what the truth is, and at the moment I place a very high probability on that scenario.”
Just as you are I am only interested in finding out the truth. Originally I leaned towards the FMD & Ann Dunham scenario as well, but now I am leaning toward the FMD & Madeline scenario.
That shirt looks like something he got for Christmas from his grandma.
I might be out of loop here, but what's wrong with the Ann Dunham and Barack Obama scenario?
I think his claim that the poem has something to do with Madelyn Dunham is not all that far fetched. I don't however, regard it as evidence that Frank and Madelyn were having sex, (I believe there are other bits that might point in that direction. Frank was a swinger, and I suspect Stanley Amour was too. Madelyn might have been dragged along.) nor do I believe that Madelyn is one of Barry's parents. I think this conclusion is a leap of faith based on very little and highly subjective analysis of a poem. That being said, I can listen to someone's theory without getting mad at them.
To sum it up, I think he's on our side, but I think he is postulating a theory that the evidence simply doesn't support. By the Standards of some of you, *I'm* a newbie, but I am certain that not a single one of you will be able to find a single thing i've written that doesn't question Obama's birth circumstance and narrative. I believe the man is a fraud, and I suspect EVERYTHING about his eligibility and life. I just want to find out what is the actual truth, and I think most of you do as well. Let us put aside our knives and bring them out later for ACTUAL Obots.
If you are not an Alinksy Obot and have a better theory, let’s hear it.
I don't put much stock in the Frank/Madelyn theory. As I mention, Obama uncannily resembles his grandfather, and the genes had to come from either Stanley Armour Directly, or one of his descendants. I've heard the theory that barry could be the son of Stanley Armour and an unnamed black woman, but there is no evidence at all to support this notion. There is a lot of evidence that Stanley Ann is his mother, and that is what I believe. I believe his Father is Frank Davis, or it is Actually Barack Obama. As for a better theory, read my previous post regarding the naked pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham. By the way, I have what I consider to be a VERY GOOD REASON for believing those pictures are actually of Stanley Ann Dunham. I'd rather not mention it on the public forum because I sort of regard it as an Ace in the Hole.
It is something I've considered. The Passport document listing his name as Soebarko but then having it crossed out tends to make me think something of the sort might have happened. But on the other hand, I would think she would have obscured it completely if she was really trying to hide the fact, and she had accidentally let it slip.
I believe that woman who is his aunt, that lives in Arkansas, said he is the spitting image of her brother, albeit dark. If his own relatives say he looks exactly like Stanley, I'd say that seems to be the consensus of most people as well. I can find the link for you if you want, but you can probably google-fu it as well as I can.
There are multiple people who remember him from both places because they transferred from Occidental to Columbia at the same time. - link
You are comparing an Old Stanley Armour (with glasses) to a Young Barry. Get the pictures of Stanley on the Beach with Barry, (or several other "young Stanley" pictures) and compare that picture of a young Stanley with a young Barry. I think they look very similar, Barry's just darker.
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