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To: Fantasywriter
So you have never heard Obama utter even a single lie?

I have heard him state half-truths, make misleading statements, and lie by omission. He has also broken many promises to voters. However, I do not recall an instance in which he uttered an outright misstatement of fact.

How is he dishonest, if he doesn’t lie

There are other ways of being dishonest, namely the ones listed above, besides making delberate misstatements of fact.

Subtlety is semantics/game playing; either he’s honest and doesn’t lie or he’s dishonest and lies: which is it?

If you believe that outright lying is the only way of being dishonest, then you are either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.

145 posted on 07/07/2011 11:34:57 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Nice with the insults. You stay classy, now; wouldn’t want you to resort to making it personal. (What you claim I said about honesty isn’t what I actually said. I am focusing on your weird fixation with defending Obama from the charge of lying. You are the only poster on all FR who disputes the fact that Obama lies like a rug. I have a theory on why that is, but I’d rather hear your explanation, if you can give it w’out resorting to childish insults.)

The reason you can’t tell if Obama is lying is because when he does, you excuse it away. For instance, he’s told the whopper that his father lived with him and his mother for two years countless times—even after the lie was repeatedly exposed, in a variety of public venues, as an outright and indisputable falsehood. When anybody mentions that to you, you say it doesn’t count.

By the way, when are you going to tell Jim Robinson he’s mistaken about Obama being a Marxist? Since you are so sure of your knowledge, why not take it to the top?


146 posted on 07/07/2011 11:54:29 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: curiosity; Fantasywriter
However, I do not recall an instance in which he uttered an outright misstatement of fact.

Really ? How about this one ?

What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we’re battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we’re not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.” So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

The first march on Selma took place on March 7, 1965. He was 4 years old at the time

159 posted on 07/07/2011 7:38:29 PM PDT by TheCipher
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