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To: curiosity

Nice with the insults. You stay classy, now; wouldn’t want you to resort to making it personal. (What you claim I said about honesty isn’t what I actually said. I am focusing on your weird fixation with defending Obama from the charge of lying. You are the only poster on all FR who disputes the fact that Obama lies like a rug. I have a theory on why that is, but I’d rather hear your explanation, if you can give it w’out resorting to childish insults.)

The reason you can’t tell if Obama is lying is because when he does, you excuse it away. For instance, he’s told the whopper that his father lived with him and his mother for two years countless times—even after the lie was repeatedly exposed, in a variety of public venues, as an outright and indisputable falsehood. When anybody mentions that to you, you say it doesn’t count.

By the way, when are you going to tell Jim Robinson he’s mistaken about Obama being a Marxist? Since you are so sure of your knowledge, why not take it to the top?


146 posted on 07/07/2011 11:54:29 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
I'm open to the possibility that Obama has outright lied, and by outright lie, I mean a deliberate and obvious misstatement of fact. To give an example, Clinton's "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" would qualify as an outright lie.

If you can provide an example of Obama doing something equivalent, please do so and I will stand corrected. However, I know of no example.

That's not to say that Obama is honest. He's not. In fact, he's one of the most dishonest presidents we have had in a long time. He routinely lies by omission, and he frequently twists the truth and misleads. But deliberately misstate fact? I can't think of an example.

And no, I don't think his writing in his book about his father living with his mother for two years counts as an outright lie. It is a misstatement of fact, but to qualify as an outright lie, it would have to be deliberate, and I don't think it was deliberate because there is no plausible motive for it. What could he possibly gain by misstating an unimportant detail about his parents' separation? Nothing that I can see.

Therefore more likely explanation is that his mother lied to him about his father leaving when he was 2, and he repeated it not knowing it was untrue.

147 posted on 07/07/2011 12:09:20 PM PDT by curiosity
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