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To: butterdezillion; freedomwarrior998
Let me guess. You immediately assume that Leo forged a screen shot but accept at face value the BC that not one expert will say is genuine (and all but one who have spoken out have said it is definitely NOT genuine)?

The “reason” you utilize depends on Leo forging a screenshot. You ridicule others as having tin foil hats because you claim that Leo is committing a conspiracy. lol.

butterdezillion, you make a valid point, but here's the problem with it, from my point of view.

Speaking personally, I have yet to see one single thing from Donofrio that's valid.

Now I will be the first to admit that I certainly haven't read his whole blog. I've only read in the region of 4 or 5 different articles by him.

But every single one of them has been bad. And by bad, I mean that the logic is flawed or twisted, or perhaps the information itself is flawed. It's like fail, fail, fail, fail - and so far, through several instances, Leo has proven 100% "reliable."

And his 100% reliability of posting stuff that is mistaken - at best - means that I don't trust one single word of what Donofrio tells me. And you would be wise to look for yourself into others' criticisms of his writings, and prove for yourself whether or not what he says is actually true. Don't take my word for it.

Earlier, I posted a thread in which Leo himself stated that a few years ago he had put forth a major treatise on the internet in which he claimed that the drummer from his favorite rock band was the Messiah, and Leo was the Paraclete (this is a Christian term meaning "helper," and usually refers to the Holy Spirit of God).

Why would you, whom I take to be a reasonable person, want to put your faith in someone who is known, by his own admission, to have widely and publicly claimed, "So-and-so rock drummer is the Christ, and I'm the Holy Spirit"?

And why would you choose to throw your allegiance to that person, and take sides against a fellow FReeper who has been here since 2007, and whose postings, as far as I can see, are universally conservative.

freedomwarrior is neither a troll, nor a rambling lunatic.

Unforunately, the thread with Leo's description of himself - sourced from his own blog, so it's 100% authentic - no longer exists. This happened because of the huge brouhaha that arose after I posted it. No one denied that the thread was factual, but several people chose to mount massive personal attacks on the messenger.

The original is here.

Given Leo's track record, I think the burden of proof falls on those putting forth his claims as if they were fact.

84 posted on 07/01/2011 10:10:44 PM PDT by Jeff Winston (Run, Sarah... Run, and win.)
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To: Jeff Winston; Red Steel

“No one denied that the thread was factual”

Liar. The Mod determined there was to much BS’ing and Whining by the poster. The poster was Jeff Winston.


89 posted on 07/01/2011 10:39:16 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: butterdezillion; fireman15

Sorry, bdz. I’m trying to keep you pinged to this stuff. See 91.

And also you, fireman, so you can see the typical reaction to a factual statement.


92 posted on 07/01/2011 10:47:17 PM PDT by Jeff Winston (Run, Sarah... Run, and win.)
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To: Jeff Winston

I am not commenting on Leo himself, and the political or religious stance of a person doesn’t tell me whether or not their evidence or argument is valid. At this point I have no way of knowing which of the researchers and/or lawyers are genuine and which are disinformation agents throwing out false stuff just to throw a monkey wrench in the works for those who are genuine. All I can go by is the actual evidence.

Donofrio was immediately accused of forging a screenshot, and anybody who didn’t believe Donofrio had forged the screenshot was immediately accused of not using logic or being interested in evidence or practicing due diligence. That’s not cool with me. I have seen no evidence thus far that Donofrio forged that screenshot, and I HAVE found evidence that what he said the “current” page was is in a Google-cached page for June 21, 2011. The person who accused Donofrio of forging a screenshot has presented no evidence to support that claim and has not apologized for making a false accusation (based sheerly on speculation that it COULD HAVE been forged) either.

Philman 63 has said he/she can’t see the latest date that the page was revised. Somebody else said they could see it but didn’t say what the date was.

So now the story switches to trying to show that it’s not unusual that the text that was entered correctly in 2006 and altered in early 2008 to get rid of the reference was now changed back to accurate the day after Donofrio posted about the manipulation, because it isn’t the only instance where that happened.

Kleon says he’s seen a Way Back Machine page showing that it happened elsewhere. He’s even posted a direct link that is supposed to take me to that page. But my computer won’t go to it. Apparently all this “evidence” is like the mythical unicorn that only appears to true believers. lol. And that in itself is something that is so common for me that it’s ho-hum already. I’ve been dealing with not being allowed to see stuff for a long, long time. But it’s not supposed to be this way. I’ve even had people tell me I must be crazy because I simply note the “difficulties” and/or anomalies I constantly battle on my computer. Stuff like e-mails that I watch my computer receive - watch the blue bars show the progress on receiving it - but then after it’s been received it doesn’t show up anywhere in my mail folders. Or the e-mails I receive from people referring to prior e-mails they had sent but I never received.

Donofrio has pointed out what he believes is a manipulation. I have seen so many manipulations that nothing would surprise me. I have seen people reported as dead who are not dead, dates listed for published obituaries that were never published - claims which show up right at the time I was discussing those people in “secure” places online. I have seen materials pop in and out of availability on Way BAck Machine. I have seen intelius reports on people who don’t exist. I’ve seen the HDOH lie on a regular basis. I watched them hide the Administrative Rules that are required to be posted publicly at all times, and only post it as required after the Lt Gov was specifically asked if that is his responsibility to see that the agencies comply with that law. I’ve seen SCOTUS dockets disappear without explanation. I’ve seen Google pop information in and out of visibility.

I’ve also seen things I thought were manipulations that turned out to be misunderstandings.

The whole situation forces a person to have a “wait and see” approach. Which is precisely what Obama needs people to be forced to have, since people who aren’t sure of anything aren’t willing to stick their neck out for anything. It’s the ultimate post-modern existence; nobody can know anything so everybody lives in permanent limbo. While we’re all debating what the meaning of “is” is, Obama is tearing the country’s foundations limb from limb.

Disgusting.


119 posted on 07/02/2011 7:31:54 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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