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To: so_real
I was just on a thread the other day where the statement "nothing before November" was debunked.

Debunked? Not quite. Almost all of those links discussing parental citizenship were contingent upon Obama being born in Kenya. Only a couple of posters considered the idea that a Hawaiian-born Obama might be ineligible but only because his mother was not old enough to transmit citizenship.

Yes, people were talking about ineligibility prior to the election but the Vattel definition that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens, period, wasn't brought up until Donofrio brought it up first. And this was November, 2008. You (and apparently everyone else but me) might have learned about this in civics class but nobody was talking about it until after Obama was elected.

52 posted on 06/26/2011 7:37:15 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: Gena Bukin; so_real
Debunked? Not quite. Almost all of those links discussing parental citizenship were contingent upon Obama being born in Kenya. Only a couple of posters considered the idea that a Hawaiian-born Obama might be ineligible but only because his mother was not old enough to transmit citizenship.

Yes, people were talking about ineligibility prior to the election but the Vattel definition that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens, period, wasn't brought up until Donofrio brought it up first. And this was November, 2008. You (and apparently everyone else but me) might have learned about this in civics class but nobody was talking about it until after Obama was elected.

Gena, let me type slowly since you don't seem to be able to read very fast.

In post #19 of this thread, you stated: November 19th, 2008 is the first post I can find on Free Republic arguing that Obama is ineligible because NBC requires both parents to be U.S. citizens. This is well after Obama was elected and corresponds to Leo Donofrio raising the issue.

So we're clear now that you claim nobody mentioned two citizen parents prior to Nov 19, 2008. Correct?

so_real pointed you to a post which you apparently didn't completely read. Here, let me excerpt a couple of quotes from said post:

Citizens is plural, as in both mother and father. It does not read, child or children of a citizen, singular.

36 posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:36:46 PM by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)


Also, both parents have to be American citizens and the candidate has to be born in this country. Questions have been raised about the eligibility of both candidates, especially Obama, and there should be no problem in verifying the information....

45 posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:44:18 AM by Dante3


This issue also came up in 1968, when George Romney (Mitt’s dad) ran for the GOP nomination. George Romney was born in Mexico of American parents. The consensus then was that the fact that both parents were US citizens meant that he qualified as “natural-born,” even though he was born outside the US.

48 posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:48:31 AM by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He’s so far to the left, he’ll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)

There, I even highlighted the relevant parts for you.

In case you want to do more research, let me get you started with this Google search where you can find more examples, if you're willing to dig a little.

56 posted on 06/26/2011 11:37:57 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: Gena Bukin; WildSnail

Debunked? Yes. Soundly. And I encourage all FReepers who doubt it to follow the thread for themselves. I'll share the link again for their convenience (click). Thank you, WildSnail, for jumping in and excerpting the relevant pieces.

The *fact* is Obama's non-citizen lineage was discussed on this forum months prior to the election. To say it was not in light of the evidence is a bold-face lie ... complete willful ignorance.

You say didn't learn of the requirements for POTUS in high school civics class. Have you considered that perhaps you refused that education and then denied it existed? just as you've done here regarding the post history on the topic?


58 posted on 06/27/2011 7:12:56 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Gena Bukin
Yes, people were talking about ineligibility prior to the election but the Vattel definition that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens, period, wasn't brought up until Donofrio brought it up first. And this was November, 2008. You (and apparently everyone else but me) might have learned about this in civics class but nobody was talking about it until after Obama was elected.

Don't care. The man was always ineligible.

61 posted on 06/27/2011 10:58:14 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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