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To: Red Steel
Nowhere is there a "contention" that there are 2nd class citizens.

I'm pretty sure what I said was a second class of citizen, but let me check....

Yep, I did.

You should read the syllabus.

Nah, you wade around in the Cliff Notes. I'll be reading the actual opinion.

as a class of citizens

Fine, ya don't want to believe the English there, what's the only other time the word "class" appears in MvH?

40 posted on 06/25/2011 9:35:14 AM PDT by Nathanael1
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To: Nathanael1

The appellant’s brief in Hollister v Soetoro used Minor v Happersett as referencd precedent. That appeal was presented to the US Supreme Court Justices for Certiorari conferences on two occasions but the Petition was denied both times.
See page 35 of the Appellants’ brief:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22846775/HOLLISTER-v-SOETORO-JOINT-APPELLANT-BRIEF-1216986-Transport-Room

Both Kerchner v Obama and Hollister v Soetoro have made the “two citizen parents are required” argument to the Supreme Court but the Roberts court does not appear to be interested. Neither appeal has made the “Discuss” list at the Supreme Court which means automatic denials.
It only takes the interest of one Justice to put an appeal on the Discuss list and it takes the concurrence of four Justices to grant a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari.


42 posted on 06/25/2011 11:16:21 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: Nathanael1
I'm pretty sure what I said was a second class of citizen, but let me check....

You're splitting fine hairs. There are no "second class of citizen" in the United States. The existence of the Constitutional natural born citizen clause does not make other who are not NBC second class.

Fine, ya don't want to believe the English there, what's the only other time the word "class" appears in MvH?

Spin all you like but you're full of nonsense.

51 posted on 06/25/2011 7:15:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Nathanael1; Red Steel
I'm pretty sure what I said was a second class of citizen, but let me check....

Yep, I did.


The two classes were not referring to two classes of citizens, but to two groups of people, the one consisting of those who were undoubtedly citizens who were born to parents both of whom were citizens, and the other those who may or may not be citizens who were born to aliens or foreigners in the United States.

Fine, ya don't want to believe the English there, what's the only other time the word "class" appears in MvH?

The first time is referring to certain persons or classes of persons who became citizens upon the formation of the United States by the adoption of the Constitution. The second time is referring to two groups of people, as mentioned above: the first, natural-born, indisputably citizens; the second, children born to aliens and foreigners in the U.S. whose citizenship was in doubt but whose lack of natural-born citizenship was never in doubt.


71 posted on 06/25/2011 11:18:59 PM PDT by aruanan
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