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Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ^ | 06/09/2011 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 06/09/2011 1:51:48 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: ASA Vet

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama


But if he was birthed in HI then that should put to rest the Kenya birthing. NBC is another issue as you point out.


21 posted on 06/09/2011 2:34:53 PM PDT by deport
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It’s bolded here because it’s bolded at the source. Verbatim.


22 posted on 06/09/2011 2:38:06 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Strange. This seems to go against everything WND has been arguing for the past three years.

And it makes no sense.

There is no PROOF of anything here. Only what those liars Dunham and Obama may have told INS at the time, OR what those liars in the records office in Hawaii may have told them.

It was commonplace for the Hawaii records office to lie about foreigners having been born in Hawaii. It means nothing, without better documentation.

And no new documentation is produced here. Only a convoluted argument that is full of holes.


23 posted on 06/09/2011 2:39:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rxsid

It's the simplest of questions : Can the son of a British subject rule the United States of America? Some folks are too stupid, or too scared, or too apathetic to ask. And others who fight to suppress the question are too cosmopolitan or too progressive to have the title "citizen".


24 posted on 06/09/2011 2:39:29 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Red Steel

Indeed. Hopefully someone who is interested in that particular issue will make another attempt and send in a FOIA regarding any passports SADO may have actually been issued. Instead of asking for just the passport application(s).


25 posted on 06/09/2011 2:41:04 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: so_real
No only is he (allegedly) the son of a British subject....but by inheritance he himself...Barry...was born a British subject.

It's impossible to be a natural born Citizen and a multi-national. A "citizen"...sure, but not a "natural born Citizen."

It's clear that while some in the media like to ridicule the "birther" issue...none of them dare touch the issue of Barry being born the subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. It's his birthright, inherited from his foreign father.

They won't touch that issue because they know it would be a losing proposition for them. Otherwise, they'd be all over that as well if they thought they could gain from it.

26 posted on 06/09/2011 2:46:55 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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No only —> Not only


27 posted on 06/09/2011 2:48:57 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Sooooo worth repeating. This is the REAL eligibility issue that the media seeks to deflect attention from by blathering endlessly about Barry being born in HI, as if that means anything (which it absolutely does not). The place of his birth is irrelevant, the citizenship of his father is what matters, and no one has or can dispute the fact that Barry Sr. was never a citizen of the U.S.

If Barry was in fact born in HI, and Sr. was his legal father at birth...Barry was born a multi-national. Owing allegiance to the British crown. THAT is what makes him an illegal POTUS...a usurper. That he was born a, and continued to be a multi-national through much of his life. He might be a "citizen", but he never was a "natural born Citizen" that's required by the Constitution.

28 posted on 06/09/2011 2:55:10 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: rxsid

Did Stan Ann ever know any men who didnt have visa problems ???


29 posted on 06/09/2011 2:56:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: rxsid
And how do we know that Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif....and one “W.L. Mix” are real people and not something added into the docs by 0bambi and his co-conspirators.
30 posted on 06/09/2011 3:01:38 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: rxsid

It's clear that while some in the media like to ridicule the "birther" issue...none of them dare touch the issue of Barry being born the subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. It's his birthright, inherited from his foreign father. They won't touch that issue because they know it would be a losing proposition for them. Otherwise, they'd be all over that as well if they thought they could gain from it

100% agreed. And yet, the same media was all over McCain because he was born off the military base in the Panama Canal zone. Hypocrisy at its best.


31 posted on 06/09/2011 3:11:39 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: rxsid

When Sr. found she was pregnant he tried to get rid of her by ignoring her. But she knew his bullcrap story about being a decendent of the great 19th Century Kenyan Prophet, Johanwa Owalo, the founder of Kenya’s Nomiya Luo Church. So she traveled alone to Kenya to try convince the B.O. Sr. family that SHE was carrying the prophet’s decendent SON that the Luo had prophecised about. They told her she was crazy and to go home. Instead she went into labor and they had to take her to the local hospital.
Owalo is believed to be a prophet similar to Jesus Christ and Muhammad, and who in 1912 made the following prophecy about the United States: “So far have they [the United States] strayed into wickedness in those [future] times that their destruction has been sealed by my [father]. Their great cities will burn, their crops and cattle will suffer disease and death, their children will perish from diseases never seen upon this Earth, and I reveal to you the greatest [mystery] of all as I have been allowed to see that their [the United States] destruction will come about through the vengeful hands of one of our very own sons.”


32 posted on 06/09/2011 3:20:01 PM PDT by fastkelly
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To: rxsid; Red Steel; Brown Deer
One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif. Benson’s query stated, “There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse’s son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicant’s child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a).”

A response to Benson’s inquiry came from one “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.

Mix replied: “Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants’ spouse’s child by a former marriage.”

“The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants’ spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicant’s step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the child’s mother on March 5, 1965.”

The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.

THE DIVORCE DOCUMENT WAS THE SOURCE! NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE SIGHTED?

NO PROOF OF A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE WAS PROVIDED? BOTTOM LINE: THE DIVORCE FROM THE KENYAN AWARDED CUSTODY TO STANLEY ANN DUNHAM OF AN UNIDENTIFIED CHILD.

33 posted on 06/09/2011 3:30:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: fastkelly

Wikipedia says they have no info on this guy, Johanwa Owalo.

Could you provide a source - anything! - for your statement?


34 posted on 06/09/2011 3:36:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Red Steel

'The wife in the Philippines from whom he is separated...'

Is not named. I think it's a mistake to assume that 'wife' was Stanley Ann Dunham. Who was ANNA OBAMA?

35 posted on 06/09/2011 3:39:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: SatinDoll

http://www.firststonellc.com/JohanwaOwaloResearch.pdf


36 posted on 06/09/2011 3:59:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Thank you for the link.


37 posted on 06/09/2011 4:05:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: rxsid
Moreover, in today’s WND article, Jerome Corsi concludes, as a result of reviewing all of the relevant INS documents, that if President Obama was born in Kenya, Dunham must have traveled there without Obama Sr., who was definitely in the US on August 4, 1961, according to these US Government records.

The whole "Kenyan birth" conspiracy was absurd from the very beginning. If one wants to argue Obama is ineligible on the basis of his foreign father, fine. I don't think this argument will ever bear fruit but at least there's something of an intellectual debate that can be had regarding what it means to be a natural born citizen. But to argue that Obama's teenage mom flew by herself halfway around the world to spawn the future President in a mud hut in Kenya is beyond ridiculous. It always has been and Farah did the issue a huge disservice with his pointless "Where's the Birth Certificate?" billboards.

38 posted on 06/09/2011 4:46:43 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: Fred Nerks

The significance of the SAD v BHO Sr divorce decree is custody was granted to SAD and child support provided by BHO Sr. is determined at a later time.

Meanwhile, SAD is petitioning the INS to allow her husband, Lolo Soetoro, to stay in the country because of it would cause her and her son a hardship.

The INS is inquiring about BHO’s II citizenship and the relationship he has with Lolo Soetoro because the status could effect the determination of hardship.

If the Soetoro adoption had been finalized in State Court, Lolo Soetoro would be the BHO’s II father and responsible for his financial support. Removing Soetoro from the country could lead to an inability to support the family.

As it turned out, the Soetoro adoption had not been completed and Lolo Soetoro was not responsible for BHO’s II financial support because he was still the step-father. A hardship could not be granted because SAD and BHO Sr. were the parents responsible for BHO’s II support.

After the Soetoro adoption was finalized, SAD Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro were listed on birth records as Barry Soetoro’s parents and solely responsible for his financial support. If SAD Soetoro had claimed a hardship having Lolo removed from the country after the adoption finalized, then she may have been able to keep Lolo in the country.


39 posted on 06/09/2011 4:48:25 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: rxsid
So the two forged “birth certificates” were just for fun?
Years of refusing to release it and then releasing two forgery's means that what he says, or his mother or his grandmother says, is truth? Then why fight it for three years, spend millions to keep it hidden and then produce two absolute forged documents? What do you do with all that deliberate lying and obfuscation Leo? Just let it go? Not me.
40 posted on 06/09/2011 5:04:04 PM PDT by ethical
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