Posted on 06/09/2011 1:51:48 PM PDT by rxsid
"Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obamas Birth In Hawaii.
I dont know how this slipped below my radar, but back on May 9, 2011, World Net Daily published an investigative report entitled, Bombshell: U.S. government questioned Obama citizenship, which in my opinion conclusively established that Obama was born in Hawaii. In that report, Aaron Klein revealed official documents stored in US immigration files which chronicle the troubles faced by Obamas mothers second husband, Lolo Soetoro, when he petitioned the US Government for a visa extension.
The WND report correctly notes that US officials expressed an interest in determining whether Soetoros step-son, President Obama, was actually a US citizen. The US officials who were handling Soetoros Visa extension application made copious notes in the file and the official comments therein illustrate that these officials doubted some of Soetoros statements. So, they decided to investigate the relationships listed in his application.
Below is the text of the relevant portion of the WND report:
One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif.Bensons query stated, There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouses son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicants child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a).
The reference is to the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which defined a child as an unmarried person under 21 years of age who, among other qualifiers, could be a stepchild, whether or not born out of wedlock, provided the child had not reached the age of eighteen years at the time the marriage creating the status of stepchild occurred.
A response to Bensons inquiry came from one W.L. Mix of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.
Mix replied: Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants spouses child by a former marriage.
The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicants step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the childs mother on March 5, 1965.The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.
So here we see the US Government looking into an application for Visa extension by Soetoro. Further review of those documents reveal that the officials did not trust everything in Soetoros application. Therefore, the Government officials wanted to establish whether Obama Jr. was truly a US citizen. They made a direct inquiry on this very issue. And they concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Again, this was established by W.L. Mix of the central immigration office.
Having taken such an exhaustive look into Soetoros application, and especially considering the governments examination of Obamas citizenship, I dont see how the government officials involved would have overlooked the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham would have been out of the US and far away in Kenya on the date W.L. Mix established as DOB for Obama if Obama had been born in Kenya.
Furthermore, a report today by WND, Documents show marriage of Obamas parents a sham, illustrates that a similar investigation as to Obama, Sr. was conducted when he was also applying for a Visa extension. Those official documents include a handwritten memo from the file, written by (presumed) INS official William Wood, which states that Obama Sr.s son, Barack Obama II, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961.
Moreover, in todays WND article, Jerome Corsi concludes, as a result of reviewing all of the relevant INS documents, that if President Obama was born in Kenya, Dunham must have traveled there without Obama Sr., who was definitely in the US on August 4, 1961, according to these US Government records. This analysis by Corsi is correct. Obama Sr.s presence in the US at the time of Obamas birth is now sufficiently documented. This fact alone adds very heavy weight to President Obama having been born in the US.
I dont see how two sets of US government officials, independently investigating the relationships between Soetoro and Dunham on one hand, and Obama Sr. and Dunham on the other, could both fail to reveal that Dunham would have been in Kenya at the time of Obama Jr.s birth. The government officials wouldve had access to Dunhams passport files. The contents thereof were relevant to the investigations since she was married to both men, and the marriages were relevant to immigration status, as was the issue of children.
Those who persist in accusing Obama of not being born in Hawaii do so in light of official government investigations, between 1961 and 1966, which established his birth, to the satisfaction of inquisitive government immigration officials, as having taken place on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA.
As far as Im concerned, the issue is settled with a massive presumption of authenticity. I do not see how the information published by WND regarding US immigration official W.L. Mixs investigation into Obamas US citizenship flew so far below the radar. That is the single most important fact I have come across that establishes Obamas birth in Hawaii.
CLOSURE IS POSSIBLE WITH REGARD TO BC ISSUE.
For those who insist on keeping the birther circus alive and kickin (despite the info listed above), I believe there is a simple way to settle the issue once and for all. I have found two references to the fact that the US Government keeps passport issuance records for all passports issued. The most recent is from Congressional testimony on the House floor from March 10, 1998:
In addition, the committee on conference is aware that on weekends there is no Departmental procedure or mechanism to access the passport issuance records maintained by the Consular Affairs Bureau. The result is that when a foreign law enforcement authority inquires about the status of a person or passport on the weekend, the State Department does not or cannot respond. This is a clear deficiency in border security procedures. (See pg. 41/53 in the PDF counter.)
The second reference is to a US Government GAO report written for the Secretary of State that argued for the destruction of passport application materials. The destruction of such materials was the basis of more conspiracy theories as to Dunhams various passport applications and renewals requested in a previous FOIA by Christopher Strunk.
Unfortunately, the FOIA request by Strunk, which has been well documented online, failed to request passport issuance records for Stanley Ann Dunham. Strunk only requested passport application materials. And the governments reply to his FOIA request was specifically limited to passport application materials. Since Strunk didnt specifically ask for passport issuance records, the government was not obligated to search for those records but they do exist and they can be found.
The GAO report which refers to passport issue cards documents the destruction of passport application materials, but it notes that the Government retains all old passport issue cards:
During numerous discussions with GSA about document retention periods, Department officials have presented many reasons for the continued storage of original passport applications. They have placed great emphasis in pointing out that old passport applications can be used to derive the citizenship of others But other ways are just as reliable and effective Should the Department need to verify if a parent was ever issued a passport, old passport issue cards have been microfilmed and can be referenced by the Department. (See pg. 44/70 in the PDF counter.)
Therefore, if Stanley Ann Dunham had been issued a passport prior to President Obamas birth, there will be a passport issue card available with that information. If no such card exists, Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961, and Obama could not have been born in Kenya. She would have needed a passport to be in Kenya.
It is my opinion that a proper FOIA request for passport issue cards (or copies thereof) will establish that Stanley Ann Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961. Such a request must be SPECIFICALLY designed to eliminate all wiggle room. I suggest the following wording:
Please forward all passport issue cards and/or microfilm or microfiche copies, or any other copies thereof or any other documents which reference the issuance of any passport for Stanley Ann Dunham. To be perfectly clear in my FOIA request, please understand that I am NOT interested in passport application materials. Please limit your response and documents to passport issue cards or copies thereof as well as any other documents which the government possesses for Stanley Ann Dunham that refer to her being issued a US passport.
Any FOIA request should NOT ask for more than the passport issuance materials. I cannot stress enough how important it is that the FOIA be strictly limited as suggested above. Such a FOIA should end this conspiracy theory with authority and finality.
I should note that I have come across a certain rabid Obama eligibility supporter who alleges to have done a proper FOIA request as to passport issuance materials. I do not trust this source and I do not have access to the EXACT wording of the alleged FOIA request. Suffice to say that anyone who wants true closure on the place of birth issue should do a FOIA strictly worded as I have suggested above requesting passport issuance documents for Stanley Ann Dunham.
I nominate the folks at WND to take this on and make all aspects public since they are the main news resource for this issue. They are invited to take the suggested FOIA request as written above (in red) and to run with it.
The fourth estate has the power and responsibility to see this through. They should thoroughly document the exact wording of the FOIA request, and they should also document the stages of compliance by the government to such a request as is required by law. Definitive documentation regarding whether Stanley Ann Dunham held a passport prior to August 4, 1961 is readily available to the public.
The Government is required to respond to the EXACT request made. No mention of passport application materials should be forwarded by the government in response to a properly worded FOIA request for passport issuance cards (or other issuance documents). We know the cards/documents exist and that they are necessary to the government as is proved by the GAO report and Congressional testimony.
The GAO notes in their report from 1981 that while passport application materials may be destroyed, passport issue cards are kept. This is beyond dispute.
If no passport issuance documents can be found for Obamas mother prior to his date of birth, then he could not have been born in Kenya.
I am not a person who needs to see anymore proof. I believe now and have always believed President Obama was born in Hawaii. But if you still have doubts, this line of inquiry is crucially necessary.
The BC issue and the birther circus surrounding it have served Obama well. Like Chester Arthur before him, the nation was thoroughly distracted by the place of birth faux conspiracy whilst the true legal question concerning his dual national status despite place of birth was obscured.
Everyone loves a big green juicy salacious conspiracy theory. Thats much more fun than a certified boring legal question, the answer to which was never in the hands of Obama, whereas the BC always was. He who controls the game, controls the outcome. (Ever get the feeling youve been cheated? Johnny Rotten)
I am writing this to clear your attention spans for what will be the most authoritative and well documented analysis I have to offer on the dual national issue concerning Obamas perpetual POTUS eligibility dilemma. I do not want the circus to obstruct the law. If you understand the importance of this post, you will pass it on far and wide so the attention of the nation can focus on the true Constitutional crisis.
Leo Donofrio, Esq."
Re: “Let’s suppose for a moment, the story of receiving food stamps in 1962/63 were true.”
From the Time article written by Joe Klein in 2006,
“For example, I was going to a fancy prep school, and my mother was on food stamps while she was getting her Ph.D.”
That is what Obama said. He went to a fancy private school that today costs $25,000 per, and up — and his mother was studying for a Ph.D.
What Obama doesn’t tell you is that he was in Punahou School in the 70’s and mom studied for her Ph. D. in the early 90’s. Here is the Wikipedia entry:
In 1992 she earned a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Hawai’i with a dissertation titled Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: Surviving and Thriving Against All Odds.
That was thirteen years after Obama graduated from his “fancy prep school.”
Obama consciously conflated these two events to produce a story he knows to be untrue. The man just lies, and lies, and lies because he knows the media won’t check.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546362-3,00.html
With all that’s been written about Obama’s birth citrcumstances, I’ve never seen this statement before:
“...there are far more witnesses and references to Obamas birth in Kenya than there are in Hawaii.”
That is a fact!
Two suspicious microfiche copies of birth announcements to this:
http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/WhatToBelieve.htm
This guy is an enigma wrapped in a million mysteries.
He's destroying America, fomenting upheaval around the world....and not one so called leader in a position of power will stand up and say something let alone do something about it.
And then there are the freakin trolls that are consistently allowed to come on these threads, disrupt and create a hostile environment here stirring up suspicion amongst otherwise solid FReepers.
I'm just about at my wits end and ready to say screw it all....I don't care anymore.
Bring on the inevitable so we can get it over with and begin anew.
I know this has been brought up before but why would a NBC or even a Citizen for that matter have an immigration file?
I would love to see that issue addressed.
Stanley Ann’s were good for 5 years. Just look at the dates on them.
Pretty amazing that no one in any position of authority in the US says one teeny word.
I think people with any wits and principles need to prepare for the inevitable. I have a blog I started awhile ago about preparedness and I’m going to get working on it, will send a link when it’s presentable.
I’d love to read it...please send a link when you’re ready.
Bless you FRiend ;)
Here are two links to the same interview concerning Barry Soetoro’s immigration file. I think it is important, as natural born citizens do not have immigration files.
April 11, 2011, Marco, of Terry Lakin Action Fund Radio, interviewed Captain Pamela Barnett, U.S. Army, Ret., about the Obama eligibility hearing Barnett, Keyes et al v. Obama, on May 2 at the 9th Circuit in Pasadena, CA.
This is almost 15 minutes long and the quality isn’t that good, but it is informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vibLN8XP0Q
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Your Federal Government Wont Release The Immigration Records Of Our Kenyan Import Obama. [This is a bit less than 10 minutes long.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rdGHNTpjQ&feature=related
Eric Bolling was interviewed on On The Record on May 15 about Obamas half brother Malik being investigated by the IRS for raising money for a charitable foundation using Barack H. Obamas name in it's title. He clearly states that he talked for about 38 minutes on the phone with the half brother and that they talked about everything including what it was like to grow up with Barack, when they grew up in Africa and also that they were on the same block. Does anyone have any info about Barack growing up with his half brother Malik? I didn't think that B. Obama was suppose to have grown up in Africa nor have grown up with any Obama half brothers. What Eric Bolling clearly said about what he discussed with Obamas half brother, to my knowledge, doesn't fit in with anything else about Barack Obamas supposed childhood chronology, does it?
Well, there you go...ENTER ROMAN OBAMA. The 31 year old law student interviewed at the Lumumba University in 1992, who just happens to be the spitting image of his father...born in January 1961, baby-sat by Mary, and taken to Kenya by the father and Ruth...after his mother returned to the Philippines?
The Kenyan, the Dark Boy, Ruth and Mark.
THREE LITTLE BOYS.
And now it becomes clear, why 'Auntie Zeituni' maintains the family in Kenya received a letter announcing the birth of Barack Hussein Obama...LIKE MALIK, THE FAMILY IN KENYA BELIEVES...that the woman he wrote home about when he said he had married a white woman named ANNA TOOT was the mother of Barack Hussein Obama...she was, but that has nothing to do with zero!
Bellflower, you are a genius!
Excellent points, imho.
It took FOUR Beetles to constitute a British invasion.
What the hell are all those 0b0z0s in one tiny state? The Kenyan invasion?
Excellent points . . .
Except that the alphabet agencies you mentioned are more or less totally subsumed under and absolutely controlled by the globalist/communist/socialist oligarchy in charge of the planet and moving rapidly toward overt rule . . .
They needed to install OThuga first to destroy our Republic as much as possible . . . probably to then flush him as a scapegoat for doing what they ordered him to do under ultimate threat to him and his family.
Interesting map. Incredible.
Hey—Texas . . . almost time to become your own country again . . . it seems to me.
Uhhhhhhhhhh . . . hello . . .
The oligarchy has had literally acres of computers monitoring every electricity based communications channel/circuit since AT LEAST 1970.
I know that for certain from my Navy Radioman colleagues.
Is there any link to that interview?
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