Posted on 05/29/2011 9:06:20 PM PDT by Rational Thought
Levin: "The contempt for Palin does, in fact, remind me of the contempt some had for Reagan"
A demagogue is defined as a person, especially an orator or political leader, who gains power and popularity by arousing people's emotions, passions, and prejudices. Which is exactly what George Will did this morning, as Doug Powers observes:
George Will seems to think American voters are concerned that our nuclear arsenal could fall into the hands of… Sarah Palin:
“The threshold question, not usually asked, but it’s in everyone’s mind in a presidential election. ‘Should we give this person nuclear weapons?’ And the answer [in Palin's case], answers itself.”
“You know how chicks are… she’ll probably get upset with a Real Housewives of Atlanta episode and hit ‘the button’…”
Doug recalls that Will's soft-spoken hysteria reminds him of how the elitists demagogued Ronald Reagan, either as “a doddering old fool” without sufficient mental capacity or as a warmongering Hitler salivating at the prospect of starting a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. But Reagan, as it turned out, negotiated with Gorbochev and signed the INF Treaty, which was the first nuclear arms control agreement to actually reduce nuclear arms, rather than establish ceilings that could not be exceeded.
And speaking of George Will and Ronald Reagan, Mark Levin has pointed out in defense of Sarah Palin:
George Will missed the Reagan Revolution not only in 1976 but as late as 1980. In the 1979 Republican Presidential Primary, his first choice was Howard Baker, his second choice was George H. W. Bush, and his third choice was Reagan. Not until days before the 1980 general election did he write on November 3, 1980 that Reagan deserved election. For all his wonderful columns, the Republican electorate better understood the needs of the nation and the excellence of a potential Reagan presidency than Will. It is hard to believe he was so wrong about a matter of such great import, despite Reagan's presence on the national scene for many years.
Instead of “which is worse”, how about someone ask G.Will which of Palin’s policy positions and opinions he disagrees with and why?
But, I doubt he would take a stand. He seems to prefer being non-committal and just telling all us rubes what’s best for us. I think Palin scares the pants off that “elite” wing of the GOP.
George Will? Let him eat canapés...
Will is an elitist who believes that only the permanent governing class (i.e. members of the Ivy League eastern heir-istocracy) should have access to power.
Obviously, he is a worshipper of power (like most in Washington). He didn’t like Reagan when he had no power in DC and when he acquired it, he suddenly loved him.
Drop the bow-tie and the bad haircut or toupee, Will! Yer outta style!
How can any so called conservative consider Huntsman and Romney serious candidates? Have we sank that low already. How can any serious conservative suggest Palin would be a danger with the nuclear football when looking at what is in charge now.
I can see where a liberal would consider Romney and Huntsman serious candidates, but as a conservative if I thought seriously of supporting these lefties and voicing that support my support my tongue would snap off its roller!
Pure arrogant elitist contempt for the conservative base and the everyday American was on display by Will.
Well, it’s going to come down to something as simple as this in Nov of 2016. Who would you fell better giving the “button” to ... Palin or Obama?
Actually I’d have not problem with the buses either, but as you say it isn’t necessary. And that is what bothered me about Will using that absurd line.
As an elitist, insulated Beltway insider, was he simply unaware of the attrition through enforcement method preferred by those who oppose amnesty? Or was it that he intentionally misrepresented the views of conservatives who are actually conservative on immigration?
I’d bet it was the latter.
As one who observes the movement of vehicles from Tucson to Nogales, Arizona, the number of vehicles piled high with household goods and returning to Mexico has diminished somewhat in the last year. But it has not ended. At present, Mexico is exporting its gangsters to America’s cities, while undocumented workers are headed home.
William F. Buckley, Jr. supported the Panama Canal Treaty. I’ve read Will for years and yes indeed he has position I disagree with. But on the taxes, the Soviet Union, big government in general he is solid.
He worked on Ronald Reagan’s debate team in the 1980 campaign for example. He was friends with Howard Baker yes, you know Ronald Reagan’s former chief of staff.
If we start throwing people under the bus, like Will, because they don’t worship at the feet of Sarah Palin then we are done for.
George Will needs to take that bowtie and stick it up his ass. He is a sychophant Washington Elite that didn’t have the talent to be a real Democrat pundit so he settled for becoming a tolerable media representation of Republican dissent (mistranslated by many as also having conservative traits)....he is neither Republican, nor conservative. He is an appeasing simp who is pandering to the leftist media for all he’s worth to help sink the Democrats’ worst Conservative (and winning) nightmare since Reagan. He has no honor.
If we start appeasing and apologizing for conservative traitors (hell, I'd not even call him a conservative come to think of it), we lessen our ideals. Regardless of the candiate, Palin in this case, he would be doing the same. He's nothing but an eccentric that covets his weekly media presence more than he does helping do substantive things for real American people. His goal is to remain in the pathetic limelight that is Washington politics, not helping America - he cannot, will not, do anything for us.
“At present, Mexico is exporting its gangsters to America’s cities, while undocumented workers are headed home.”
I think you have it right. The “undocumented workers” aren’t going to stick around forever when work dries up. They may try to get by on the government handouts they get, especially if they have anchor babies, but a lot of them will be looking for work. And if they can’t find work they head back home.
The gangsters and the La Raza/ Aztlan crowd are another matter entirely. They’re here to do The Crimes Americans Won’t Do Anymore and to grab political power.
“As an elitist, insulated Beltway insider, was he simply unaware of the attrition through enforcement method preferred by those who oppose amnesty? Or was it that he intentionally misrepresented the views of conservatives who are actually conservative on immigration?
I’d bet it was the latter.”
I’m with you. He’s trying to discredit us.
I don't think anyone here is wants George Will to "worship at the feet of Sarah Palin". How about if he just supports whoever the Republican nominee is, even if that person is more conservative than he would prefer?
As I noted in my earlier post on this thread, Will has essentially admitted that he would vote for Obama over Palin. He doesn't think Palin can be trusted as CIC, but he seems to be fine with Obama as CIC. Is that position defendable by someone who considers himself a "conservative"? I can't imagine Ronald Reagan making the same choice.
I don't think anyone here is wants George Will to "worship at the feet of Sarah Palin". How about if he just supports whoever the Republican nominee is, even if that person is more conservative than he would prefer?
As I noted in my earlier post on this thread, Will has essentially admitted that he would vote for Obama over Palin. He doesn't think Palin can be trusted as CIC, but he seems to be fine with Obama as CIC. Is that position defendable by someone who considers himself a "conservative"? I can't imagine Ronald Reagan making the same choice.
I don't think anyone here is wants George Will to "worship at the feet of Sarah Palin". How about if he just supports whoever the Republican nominee is, even if that person is more conservative than he would prefer?
As I noted in my earlier post on this thread, Will has essentially admitted that he would vote for Obama over Palin. He doesn't think Palin can be trusted as CIC, but he seems to be fine with Obama as CIC. Is that position defendable by someone who considers himself a "conservative"? I can't imagine Ronald Reagan making the same choice.
Her weeks as Alaska governor.
With all due respect, I don’t think Will has said any such thing. He is a Pawlenty guy for the moment but given his positions in the past and most recently I doubt if he would vote for Obama at all. But I’m sure he will have the courage of his convictions to endorse someone when the time comes.
However, let's revisit what he did state:
“The threshold question, not usually asked, but it’s in everyone’s mind in a presidential election. ‘Should we give this person nuclear weapons?’ And the answer [in Palin's case], answers itself.”
If Will felt the same way about Obama he surely would have expressed that view by now. Will has never said anything similar about Obama.
If Will truly believes what he said about Palin I would think he would no choice but to vote for Obama if the alternative was Palin.
Is Sarah Palin more likely to use nuclear weapons against the people of the United States than the ba$tard currently in the White House? Not a freeking chanceby bigheadfred
I disagree with most of your thinking that Palin would not be a problem. I scares me that getting the job as president does not include the simple vetting that a police officer, FBI agent or even a worker in a high level financial job would receive. If you're elected president do you need to submit to drug testing, psych evaluations, lie detector tests, background test, neighbor and friend questionings? To my knowledge this level of basic testing testing does not happen if you're elected president.
It is absolutely the case that Democrats who get elected president (Clinton, Obama) are people who don't inspire confidence in Republicans as people whose only interest is the welfare of the American public as a whole. At the same time, are you willing to give the FBI veto power over who we can and cannot elect to be POTUS?Without such testing how can we be assured that said person will not snap and push the button because the stress off office got to be too much? Palin in her only other political job (under 2 years)simply quit when the stress of all that litigation concerning her misuse of office got to be too much,The vetting should be done by the political parties, and by free and independent journalists. Our problem is that we have a free press, when we need independent presses. We only have a single press, because all our presses are associated. That's what the AP does - it functions as a union for newspapers and broadcast news. With the result that we have a press which is empowered to pursue the interest of journalism as if it were the public interest. The interest of journalism is to have the public hanging on its every word, believing that journalism is an oracle. The public interest is that journalists of various perspectives compete to make sense of the world from every angle, and the interest of journalism to be considered objective is at odds with that.Journalism calls politicians who align themselves with the interest of journalism "liberal" or "progressive" - or whatever positive label they think will be most helpful - and give "media anal exams" to politicians who oppose them.
Palin's Achilles Heel was her strength - an adamant insistence on probity in office. That's how she progressed from victory to victory, culminating in a successful tenure in the governorship right up to the time she was nominated for the office of VPOTUS.so who is to say that the dingbat won't push the button?Saul Alinsky followers ruthlessly responded to that nomination by using specious claims of ethical violations to jam the gears of the Alaska state government.The rationale behind term limits, which most FReepers support, is that over time elected officials tend to lose their focus on the interest of the public, and become time servers. Palin didn't lose her focus in 2 short years, but she did find that her adversaries had successfully compromised her effectiveness. The effect was the same. So she decided that the interest of the Alaskan public was not served by her remaining in office, clutching the salary and perquisites of that office to her breast like some Democrat (or like Senator Murkowski, unfortunately). Her resignation was intended as a service to the public (tho some say that the lieutenant governor has been a disappointment in the governor's chair). And also to free her from the vice in which the Alinskyites had trapped her. Yes, also freeing her to write her book, go on tour, and become more involved in national politics.
There is no real rationale for denigrating Palin which is based in fact; it's all media spin.
Will is Obamas footrest. Kneeling faithfully before Obama so Obams feet will be elevated.
I trust Sarah with the button before I trust any RINO yellowdog.
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