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To: butterdezillion
Is it true that CNN flew Waidelich to Hawaii so he could ask for his birth certificate, only to try to prove the undisputed fact that a COLB is the default when a person requests their BC?

I would not doubt it. A check for his home address would help. There is no doubt that this was coordinated between Hawaii, the liberal news organs, and the White House. It all started to come together when Obama first said he was born in Hawaii talking to a crowd (and to ABC Steffy Snuffilufigous Interview) on the 13th or 14th of April. They were all ready to implement their game plan by that date. Before then, Obama would talk around it by saying I grew up in Hawaii, or I went to school in Hawaii, or he talked in a weird third person voice who said he was born in Hawaii.

299 posted on 05/20/2011 1:02:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I think you’re right.

Somebody told me he lives in Washington now; not sure how that conclusion was reached. Looking at the reports, CNN claims that Waidelich is “a current resident of the state”.

Ah, I see now; intelius has Washington listed. See http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=Stig&qmi=&qn=Waidelich&qcs=&focusfirst=1

But his facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/people/Stig-Waidelich/100001555231829 says he lives in Honolulu. He went to college in Washington. So that explains that.

OK, they didn’t fly him in. Still I don’t believe it is an accident that a person born on the same day as Obama was chosen for this, nor that the Fogbow folks were so quick to jump on this.

I’m trying to take a break from all this stuff, but keep responding to posts at my blog. Given that there’s so much disinformation about the BC numbering issue I should probably do a post on it, if I can get my computer to cooperate; I’m having lots of troubles. One question I have regards the particular kind of stamp that was mentioned by the guy who wrote the analysis at http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/55594183
. He referred to a stamp that automatically forwards serially. If that is what was actually used, then there is no way that they could have turned back the stamp to make Nordyke’s BC#’s 200+ numbers earlier when they stamped the Nordyke BC’s on Aug 11th. I wonder how a person could find out exactly what kind of stamp they used.

Anyway, here’s what I posted in regards to the numbering of the BC’s:

Janice Okubo said that the “date filed by local registrar” was the date that the local registrar filed the BC, the “date accepted by state registrar” was the date that the state registrar accepted and gave the BC a number, and the two terms were combined into the term “date filed” in the current computer system because for Oahu BC’s those were the same dates.

The HDOH Administrative Rules refer to the assignment of the state file number/certificate number as the state’s official acceptance of the record – which is significant because after that point any amendments, additions, or deletions have to be noted on the BC and render the BC no longer prima facie evidence in legal proceedings.

That’s why the 1955 article at http://www.wnd.com/files/CHARLESBENNETT.pdf refers to the registrar checking with the hospital if there are any questions or discrepancies. The registrar would want to get that ironed out before filing the BC, because mistakes could cause legal problems for the registrant later. Hawaii statute also allowed the local registrar to register unattended births, and there was a 30-day window for the registrar to collect supplemental information in such a case without the penalty of being marked “late” or “altered”.

Page 5 of the CDC’s 1961 Natality Report also says that the local registrar checks for completeness and genuineness of the information before filing it and sending it on to the state registrar.

So when the local registrar is satisfied that the BC is correct, he sends it on to the state registrar, who then stamps it with a certificate number and stamps the date on it. We can tell that by the way the certificate number and date stamps look. They are not typed; they are stamped.

If Stig Waidelich’s BC says “date filed” is Aug 8, then that is the date it was given a number. Same with Obama’s. On Aug 8th, the Nordyke BC’s were not even in the state registrar’s office, so there is no way that anybody could have alphabetized Waidelich’s with the Nordykes’. On Aug 8th they used their date stamper and their certificate number stamper and put those stamps on Waidelich’s BC. And on Obama’s BC.

But those certificate numbers are higher than the certificate numbers that were stamped on the Nordyke BC’s. IOW, the HDOH wants us to believe that they stamped those numbers on the Obama and Waidelich BC’s and then 3 days later they backed up their adjustable certificate number stamp 200+ numbers and used that number on the 2 Nordyke girls’ BC’s.

No way.


308 posted on 05/20/2011 1:56:32 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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